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Episode Summary
In a galaxy flooded with content, storytelling is no longer a skill—it’s the rebellion.
In this milestone 50th episode, Nish and David Granger frame the conversation through the lens of the original Star Wars trilogy—exploring how brands moved from story-rich origins (A New Hope), through algorithmic obedience and commoditization (The Empire Strikes Back), to a moment of reckoning (Return of the Jedi).
They dive into why storytelling is the last true differentiator in an AI-driven landscape, how CMOs became “chief algorithm officers,” and why creative ops leaders must become the Rebel Alliance—fighting not just for brand expression, but for brand soul.
This episode isn’t just about marketing—it’s about what you choose to stand for.
Key Takeaways
From Listening to Thining: From Brand Complacency to Creative Rebellion
Use these prompts to reflect solo—or spark bold conversations with your team:
Guest: David Granger, Content Director & Co-Founder at Arc & Foundry | Former Head of Content at Red Bull Media House, cinch, PMI
David Granger has spent over two decades turning stories into strategy. From his roots in journalism to building Red Bull’s iconic storytelling machine, David now leads Arc & Foundry, a content marketing agency that crafts emotionally resonant brand narratives. In this episode, he joins Nish to map the creative rebellion—past, present, and future.
🔗 Links & Resources
David Granger on LinkedIn
Arc & Foundry
By Nish Patel5
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Episode Summary
In a galaxy flooded with content, storytelling is no longer a skill—it’s the rebellion.
In this milestone 50th episode, Nish and David Granger frame the conversation through the lens of the original Star Wars trilogy—exploring how brands moved from story-rich origins (A New Hope), through algorithmic obedience and commoditization (The Empire Strikes Back), to a moment of reckoning (Return of the Jedi).
They dive into why storytelling is the last true differentiator in an AI-driven landscape, how CMOs became “chief algorithm officers,” and why creative ops leaders must become the Rebel Alliance—fighting not just for brand expression, but for brand soul.
This episode isn’t just about marketing—it’s about what you choose to stand for.
Key Takeaways
From Listening to Thining: From Brand Complacency to Creative Rebellion
Use these prompts to reflect solo—or spark bold conversations with your team:
Guest: David Granger, Content Director & Co-Founder at Arc & Foundry | Former Head of Content at Red Bull Media House, cinch, PMI
David Granger has spent over two decades turning stories into strategy. From his roots in journalism to building Red Bull’s iconic storytelling machine, David now leads Arc & Foundry, a content marketing agency that crafts emotionally resonant brand narratives. In this episode, he joins Nish to map the creative rebellion—past, present, and future.
🔗 Links & Resources
David Granger on LinkedIn
Arc & Foundry

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