Steven Rinella talks with Heather Douville and Seth Morris.

Topics discussed: How to pronounce Tlingit; setting halibut hooks in competitive pairs of two; drying fish over spruce sticks; putting good energy into what you’re doing; “do the best you can, your friend is coming to fight you”; salmon as a part of a way of life; only take what you need even if the law says you can take more; wearing seal; the sea otter fur trade; Heather’s small business, Coastal Fur and Leather; how sea otters eat 25% of their body weight in seafood a day; how there’s more hair on one square inch of a sea otter than there is on an entire German shepherd; soft gold; shooting off hand out of the boat; supporting the cause; restrictions under the Marine Mammal Protection Act; how kids are sacred; get Heather's handmade fur items here; and more.

Outro song: "The World To Me" by Jared Hicks 

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