At the end of this conversation, you'll know why I was excited to speak to Operations Director, Kay Epps, after Michael Goldberg kindly made the introduction. 

Kay talks about 'loving the bricks', working in a white male-dominated industry, and the resilience it took to secure the career she loves - a great lesson for today's new grads! Plus why it's important to have a coach & support network.

We went into depth about the impact of the social justice events of 2020 & why this time it is creating the difficult conversations & investment that is needed in DEI. And belonging!

She recommended Motivation by Daniel Pink and praised Atlassian for 'getting' motivation and the impact of Aubrey Blanche. She shared what it was like to receive an apology from her Executive, and why he was initially inactive; totally inspiring! We also chatted about shared responsibility and that we must get comfortable with uncomfortable conversations.

And as for Kay's tips for hiring leaders & recruiters, grab a pen! ✍🏻

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