In this conversation, Dr. Jonathan Schanzer and Gabe discuss the complex dynamics surrounding the fall of the Assad regime in Syria, the rise of Al-Qaeda, and the implications for U.S. national security. Schanzer highlights the roles of Turkey and Qatar as new players in the region, the impact on Iran and Russia, and the nature of the new leadership under Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS). Schanzer emphasizes the need for vigilance and careful management of U.S. interests in a rapidly changing Middle East landscape.