The National Conservatives are in town and it's a pretty sinister guest list. David Starkey has been making bizarre and worrying statements, an author downplays WW2 and a headmistress does some shouting. But the Home Secretary is there too, and Gove and Lee Anderson and Mogg..... Marina and Jemma try to make sense of it before moving on to what's been trending on twitter for days - Phil and Holly. So, not exactly from the sublime to the ridiculous.... but.....two other words.

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