What exactly is a “naturalist”? Spend a little time with Sandy Geffner, and you’ll find out. Steve and Bill rarely go more than an episode or two without mentioning him—a naturalist who profoundly shaped both their lives. This month, they head into the woods to talk with Sandy about how a baseball-loving kid from Long Island became someone who’s inspired countless people to deepen their connection with the natural world.

This episode was recorded on July 21, 2025 at JP Nicely Memorial Park in West Falls, NY.

Episode Notes and Links

Earth Spirit Educational Services

Rogers Environmental Center

The State University of NY at Buffalo’s Dept. of Environment and Sustainability

Sandy’s UB Faculty Page

Santee Sioux Reservation

Stony Kill Farm Environmental Education Center

Tifft Nature Preserve

Cayuga Nature Center / Treetops

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