Lauren and Michele are back to talk about Real Housewives of Orange County Season 19, Episode 4, a classic but lazy episode of Housewives spiced up by the strange and dead-eyed monotone flop queen and possibly first ever AI Real Housewife Katie Ginella.

We talk about Shannon's proclamation of Katie's evil at Heather's party, the mysteries of Katie's mind and prescription list, and Tamra's old bag of tricks. Plus aerial yoga (ugh), Jenn and Ryan getting lower veneers (dark-sided), Katie's rendezvous with Kiki Monique, and another fight between Jenn and Tamra where Tamra is furious she has to watch what she says to avoid a lawsuit.

Sound Bites

• "This is a waste of a good dress."
• "She's so AI."
• "Diet culture is back."

Chapters

00:00 Intro

03:02 Reality TV is Changin

06:02 Tamra and Jo, Katie's Husband Throws Down and Jenn's Monologue

11:02 Jen Gets Lower Veneers On Camera

12:45 Tamara's Social Media Drama

13:25 Diet Culture is Back and We Are Sad

16:33 Tamara's "Forgive Me!" Storyline and The Cursed Return of Aerial Yoga

20:55 Katie's Return and Tamara's Manipulations

24:18 Tamara and Jen's Dinner Fight

26:53 The Future of Reality TV and Viewer Expectations