This is already the second time she is a guest at Leaders Talk: Anna Kirin, the president of CBSD thunderbird, an organization that educates young Russian leaders, and serves on the board of the American chamber of Commerce.

Last time she was here, was shortly after the start of the war in the Ukraine, to talk to us about the situation in Russia. Now, two years later, she is back to describe the current

Time schedule of the interview:  

-       Anna talks about the death of Nawalny (2:50)

-       She tells us about how life is in Russia right now (8:00)

-       She talks about how to get independent information (20:30)

-       Anna thinks about the upcoming elections in Russia (24:00)

-       She tells us how she stays hopeful (44:15)

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Guest: Anna Kirin

Host: Karsten Drath

Production & Editing: Hannah Jandl & Daniela Magnani Hüller

Research & Preparation: Antonia Kaiser & Lena Wokurka