This week, on a shorter-than-usual episode, Ashleigh and Flint take their collective feet off the accelerator and approach things in a more thoughtful way. But there is still some news talk! Including:

• CW: This episode contains a discussion around the actions of ICE, in the USA. There's no easy way of going over this.
• Closer to home, the Council of Europe has voted to ban conversion therapy, despite the best efforts of a certain anti-trans group...
• In fact that particular group had a double-whammy of deserved disappointment and we'll tell you all about it in Loser's Corner.
• Followed by a considered conversation about how, in these difficult times, are we to rest. Maybe there's ways of passing time that are in and of themselves radical. From the immortal Terry Pratchett: "It's not worth doing unless someone, somewhere would much rather you weren't doing it."

References: https://whatthetrans.com/ep148