This conversation caught me off guard on just how incredible it became.
What was meant to be a focused 90-minute interview about foreign interference turned into a 2.5-hour deep dive into some of the most urgent and symbolic questions of our time. 

We covered the breakdown of the post-World War II narrative, the cultural fragmentation we’re now living through, and how the behaviour playing out on TikTok today mirror the biblical story of Eve in the garden—tempted by the serpent with the promise of moral knowledge, and in doing so, unleashing a fall. Except now, the snake speaks through a screen. And the fruit? It's outrage, certainty, and the call to become an activist prophet to save the world.

If you’re willing to commit to this one—to sit with it and listen through to the end—I truly believe it will enrich your day. 

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