Provoked with Darryl Cooper and Scott Horton

EP:21 - The MAGA Civil War Has Begun! Tucker Carlson v. Shapiro & Levin


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The outrage machine took a clipped quote and turned it into a trial of character. So instead of ducking the fire, we walked straight in and asked tougher questions: What choices did Churchill really make in 1939 and 1940—and what did they cost Europe? Where were the off-ramps? How did British strategy, propaganda, and bombing doctrine fuel escalation? And why does that history still matter when you scroll your phone today and see Gaza in ruins?


Cooper draws a line from the myths of World War II to the way narratives are managed now—from algorithms that boost “safe” dissenters, to the lobby networks that punish anyone who strays too far.


Public opinion has shifted, but the elite consensus hasn’t moved an inch. That tension is visible to everyone—left, right, and center. Once people see unfiltered footage instead of curated messaging, they start asking the questions the gatekeepers don’t want on the table: Who shapes the narrative? Who gets silenced? And why don’t our leaders reflect the moral instincts of the public?

We also face the fracture on the right head-on. A younger, online generation speaks a different political language than the legacy establishment, and their anger often gets mistaken for ideology.


Our approach is simple: reach big, alienated audiences without endorsing their worst takes; defend open debate instead of letting smear campaigns define its limits; distinguish between Zionism, lobbying, and Jewish identity; and keep the focus where it belongs—on policy and power.


Engagement isn’t endorsement. It’s strategy. Persuasion that expands the conversation beats purity that shrinks it.


If you’re done with cartoon history and choreographed outrage, this conversation connects the dots: Churchill’s gambles, manufactured consent, Gaza’s moral reckoning, algorithmic manipulation, and the urgent need to build institutions that teach complexity instead of slogans. Subscribe, share it with a friend who still sees history in black and white, and leave a review to help others find the show. Your feedback drives what we dig into next.



Don’t blink — because what’s happening inside MAGA right now could reshape the entire movement.




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