What if the most effective lever in the US energy transition is not more generation, but shifting when and how energy is consumed? As EVs, AI, and electrification accelerate demand, utilities are rethinking load flexibility as a core strategy for grid stability and affordability.

In this episode, host Russell Goldsmith is joined by Nick Chaset, CEO of Octopus Energy US and Executive Vice President of North America for Octopus Energy Group, and Lori Mitchell, Director of San Jose Clean Energy. Together, they discuss how smart tariffs, flexible devices, and customer trust can help optimize demand across hours. From Texas to California, they explore the real-world potential of Flexibility as a Service and why load flexibility is becoming central to how the US grid evolves.