Mike Wartella (Wicked, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Tuck Everlasting) found theater as a kid and discovered a sense of power that would change his life, but a career in the arts is filled with uncertainty and powerlessness. Mike and Bobby discuss how overcompensation for fear and insecurity often lead to addictive validation-seeking that can lead us down harmful paths, and that a redefinition of personal power is essential for healthy and sustainable relationships to ourselves and others.

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