It’s a conversation no one wants to have, but it’s one we need to normalize. So let's talk about it.

Layoffs happen. A lot. To pretty much everyone. And while it stings, it’s not the end of the world.

In this episode, Jen and Casper get real about their own experiences with layoffs: what helped, what they wish they had done differently, and how they turned frustration into momentum, including:

- The very, very real 7 stages of grief

- Focussing on what you can control when everything feels lost 

- Keep your network warm before you need it Not burning bridges (even if it would feel amaaaaaazing)

We'll also do some myth-busting around how protected you *really* are when you're on parental leave.

All this and more is broken down in the episode.