We sit down with Katie McHugh, who walked away from the center of the Alt Right and has been helping to fight them ever since. We’re also joined by the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Michael Edison Hayden to talk about his experiences working with Katie, and how she’s been an invaluable part of the fight against White Nationalism since walking away.

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Here are some of the sources and references we used to create this episode:

U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL INVOLVED IN WHITE NATIONALIST MOVEMENT, HATEWATCH DETERMINES

https://www.splcenter.org/gebert

STEPHEN MILLER’S AFFINITY FOR WHITE NATIONALISM REVEALED IN LEAKED EMAILS

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2019/11/12/stephen-millers-affinity-white-nationalism-revealed-leaked-emails

Leaked Stephen Miller emails show Trump’s point man on immigration promoted white nationalism, SPLC reports

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/12/leaked-stephen-miller-emails-suggest-trumps-point-man-immigration-promoted-white-nationalism/

More Miller “hate group” emails leak as former reporter claims media hid "racist screeds" for years

https://www.salon.com/2019/11/14/more-miller-hate-group-emails-leak-as-former-reporter-claims-media-hid-racist-screeds-for-years/

Can You Ever Trust a Former White Nationalist?

https://politicalresearch.org/2022/05/11/can-you-ever-trust-former-white-nationalist

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