Aaron interviews Casey hot on the heels of his goshawk eyeass collecting trip. Did he come home empty handed? We discuss the theory that conifer needles treat and prevent aspergillosis in wild hawks and falconry birds. Casey attempts to explain why goshawks are special. He goes into his history as a television star, imprinting goshawks, his favorite thing to hunt and shoe horns in how much he can bench press. This and much more!