Named after Theo's recent Longform Editions release, the episode features Alec, Nick, and Theo embarking on a slightly turnt post-red-sauce conversation that discusses his work as well as ideas around sincerity, duration, ambient music vs. ambivalent music, the piano, "Blue" Gene Tyranny, Tim Hecker, Phillip Corner, Dark Souls, and more.

Opening Theme Music: Xander Seren

Closing Music: "window" by Theodore Cale Schafer