We're talking with Deniz Kahn, the President of Wata Games, about certification, grading, and where the collector's market for video games may be headed. If you're not about encapsulating your games and think they're only meant to be played, we're still talking about Wata's educational efforts like their recent comprehensive NES black box guide, and tackling the classic issues like NWC vs Stadium Events. This episode is super long so I bet we also got an iam8bit Mega Man jab in there somewhere.

Also you can use coupon code "collectorsquest" for 10% off on a Wata submission. No, we don't get money from that, we just think it's cool. And we'll probably use it ourselves.