I’m so happy to produce another Herp Science Sunday segment with Dr. Alex Krohn! In this episode we talk with Dr. Alexandra Martin, one of the co-authors of a brand new paper, which lays out some astounding data that supports the idea that some anole species are able to breathe underwater, in a novel way. The name of the paper is “High dissolved oxygen extends dive duration and suggests physical gill use in a vertebrate” and was published in the Journal of Experimental Biology in July of 2025. The authors are Alexandra M. Martin, Diane Cordero-De La Cruz, and Lindsey Swierk. Congratulations to all of the co-authors! Feel free to email me if you would like a PDF of the paper (somuchpingle “at” gmail dot com).

Here is the link to the Anole Bubble Movie, useful to watch prior to hearing our discussion.

Here is a link to a related article in the Anole Annals blog, authored by Dr. Lindsey Swierk.

On BlueSky, you can follow Allie Martin PhD (@alliemartin.bsky.social) and Lindsey Swierk (@lindseyswierk.bsky.social).

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