Hello all from the During-Times. May I present to you a podcast recorded from the Before-Times. Perhaps you will listen from the After-Times. Regardless, I am grateful that you are here, and that I was able to have this conversation some weeks ago with my friend, the wonderful Dan Pashman, host of the Sporkful podcast and more. And I am grateful to present it to you now, for listening enjoyment. Thank you for being, reading, listening, doing, all that you are.