Sean shares more about caving in Fisher Ridge, including a major incident a few years ago that was expertly handled by cave rescue personnel. He also takes us underground in New Mexico and elsewhere, and shares his thoughts on the parallels between caving and philosophy in this second half of our time together.

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REGISTER for the 2026 NSS Convention

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NSS Calendar of Events

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Find your local grotto!

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