Philip spends time with Ron Wakkary, author of Things We Could Design for More Than Human Centered Worlds. In their conversation, they discuss how design and its focus on the human perspective has had significant costs to the non-human//natural world around us. How can designers think differently to incorporate a wider perspective that in turn opens up new alternatives.

The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.

Philip’s Drop:

Ron’s Drop:

Special Guest: Ron Wakkary.