Having recently celebrated experimental hodgepodgeist and artist Ying Liu’s 10th anniversary as a resident of New York City, Alec & Nick embark on discussing a central question she has asked Flavortone: what is an experiment? The episode features a self-checklist of questions Ying asks herself when inquiring if something “is an experiment.” The conversation responds to these questions and broadly discusses Ying’s two recent works PLAYDATE and PIGTAIL—centering questions around the production of willingness, commitment, our technological reality, the shifting reality paradigm, and the implications of Ying’s work and approach for experimental music, specifically.