This is likely to be the first of many, many episodes where we will attempt to explore the ‘purpose’ of Shamanic medicine, of healing, of spiritual practice, and of pretty much everything we engage with as modern seekers.

Where are we trying to get? Who are we attempting to become? And if all the answers are already inside and present within us, are we actually trying to ‘get’ somewhere…or is something else afoot?

In this episode (which, be warned: feels a little ungrounded after listening to it a few days after recording. There were some intense energies happening this past week, and I think that resulted in a very wiiiiide ranging conversation) Allison and I explore some ideas like:

How do we make sense of events that happen in our life when we are ‘looking for the message’ in them?

Why medicine isn’t aiming to prevent falling apart, and what it is actually trying to accomplish.

Why Allison might be using this episode to break up with me (and Shamanic practice)..

The amazing (and terrifying) medicine of ‘Petty Tyrants’, and why the person that is most difficult for you might also be your best medicine.

How we need to respond when there’s abuse

what the ‘small m’ magic of spiritual practice might be, and what I experience the ‘big M’ magic to be.