Regular listeners of the podcast will know how totally demotivating we find motivational quotes – however there is one exception to this rule… Veronica Dearly, whose whole-hearted warmth and empathy is at the cornerstone of her illustrations. Veronica's funny blend of stress and self-awareness is a lovely corner of the internet - she stares into the abyss and finds a little bit of hope there. Her new book How to Do Hard Things is out now: an illustrated guide to embracing change and challenging self-limiting beliefs. We talk Anxiety! Panic! Procrastination! Sometimes all at once...

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