Why does the name Stayner ring a bell? Because last week Ash and new co-host Ali talked about the story of Steven Stayner, who was just 7 years old when he was kidnapped by 2 men while he was walking home from school. If you haven't listened to episode 138 yet, make sure you do that before you jump into this one!

This week Ali tells Ash about Steven Stayner's older brother Cary, who grew up to be a serial killer. Yes, you read that right. How much can one family take?! Also, ooo Cary would hate this description because it mentions Steven so much, and Cary had a tiny problem with jealousy.


We're releasing this 2 days early because we're so excited for Ali's first story to air and we know y'all have probably been on the edge of your seats since last week! ALSO, we wanted to give you a little taste of what Patrons get... but they got it YESTERDAY! Join us for as little as $5 a month on Patreon!

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-Research assistance by Emily Springer.
-Audio editing by Gaytrice Perdue.
-Sources:

• https://www.hulu.com/series/captive-audience-a-real-american-horror-story-d840873f-211e-47a8-864b-8aa7c54d193c
• https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/amp/steven-cary-stayner-family-documentary-17090766.php
• https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/news/a-look-back-at-steven-stayner-kidnapped-child-who-escaped-to-the-ukiah-pol/
• https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/serial-killer/heroism-and-horror-one-brother-was-kidnapped-the-other-became-a-serial-killer
• https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/cary-stayner-35132.php
• https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Stunning-details-in-Stayner-s-confession-In-2908761.php
• https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-aug-27-me-stayner27-story.html
• https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/yosemite-killer-now