They say that politics is something you should never discuss in polite conversation. But the truth of this episode is that business hates uncertainty and if we’re going to have a real view of risk and resilience in 2024, this is a conversation we must have.

Hello everyone and welcome to episode 140 of the Resilient Journey podcast, presented by the Resilience Think Tank.

This week we are joined by John Ashford, Chairman and CEO of The Hawthorn Group who says that there are three specific types of threats business face today: Shooting wars, non-shooting wars and the domestic crises making cities unsustainable for business.

On top of our day-to-day focus, much of the world is heading for elections as people will head to the polls in the US, UK, and France and leadership is either new or in jeopardy in the Netherlands, Germany and Canada.

This is part 1 of a special two-part episode.

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