Doubleheader episode this week. After the fellas discuss their mental state after the recent election, we interview Sach Illpages of The Nonce about his album World Ultimate and his newer work. He is joined by producer KTD to discuss their new collaborative project. Next up is a discussion on the intersection of instrumental hip-hop production and electronic music with author Laurent Fintoni. Laurent spent over a decade researching various artists, scenes, record labels, and movements and the result is his excellent new book Bedroom Beats & B-sides: Instrumental Hip Hop & Electronic Music at the Turn of the Century. We highly recommend picking up a copy. Dad Bod Rap Pod is a proud member of the Stony Island Audio podcast network.