This week Joel has a chat with Neil Sanders of the excellent podcast Some Dare Call It Conspiracy - which you should all be subscribed to already.

We look at the puppet masters of the alt media who are pushing their agenda onto the hapless conspiracy movement that don't seem to notice that all their beliefs just happen to be fossil fuel industry talking points.

FUNNY THAT.

Neil is one of the few people I can think of (Daniel Morrison, Brendan from BIAS/Dirt Unit) who really get this phenomenon. So I had him on for a chat. And it's good!

Could have been twice the length but timezones are a bitch.

Enjoy!

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