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We have decided this week we are not doing consent. It's not a thing, man. Except when it comes to beer. Consent is important when it comes to beer.

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Anyway - this episode we have a bunch of news at the top with Jack looking at the election of David Shoebridge who I am going to call Shoey. I think Davey Shoes is also acceptable.

Jack also has a peek at Pike - the botched execution of Christa Pike which is very much a developing story.

And there' some treason in Germany. Is it high treason? Light treason? We don't know yet.

Oh and the pneumonic plague is having a crack in Russia. How's that gonna go? I mean, it'll be fine but it's a bit concerning. Maybe don't put viruses and deadly bacteria in open test tubes?

AND THEN THE BIT THAT HAS COST ME SEVERAL DEXIES - A LOOK AT JOANNA HOWE

And her weird husband who has been through the ringer due to his comments on consent. I clear up a few things that were plaguing my mind - why does she still have a position at Adelaide University and also - what the hell does James actually do? Old mate is sitting on a sweet wicket with a wife pulling in six figures but he likes to think he's the breadwinner in his little givesendgo blurb. I dunno man, I can't see it.

We have a bloody cracking sovcits - which is needed to wash down the taste of no consent bro and thennnnn

BABET! Is still an idiot. Oh sorry, is that a spoiler?

Enjoy!

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Alright so this one's not very defamatory and it's mostly scripted - I was gonna put this in the last episode but it ran over time. I am being properly punished with uni work - really interesting stuff - but I really hope to get an episode up this week. Dunno what Jack wants to do, but I want to sink my teeth into this Joanna Howe drama and also look into the greater anti-abortion movement which appears to have gained a lot of traction (read: dodgy money) over the past little while. They usually leave some pretty big fingerprints behind but I gotta say - I saw the rabble outside NSW parliament house a couple weeks ago and it looked fragmented and confused. There was a stage though. And where there's a stage, there's a chequebook. If anyone has any leads or info please let me know via facebook, twitter DM (I rarely check but...) or [email protected]

Enjoy Kash Patel lettting the goatfuckers have their shot at being federal agents. First they came for the barnyard bangers and I said nothing because I don't fuck animals...

Sorry folks this one took a while cause I was away and had no idea it existed. But it's still good! Pick it up, dust it off and have a listen. As usual this one is brought to you by Google Gemini - Flash 3.8 with enhanced thinking. What does that mean? I'm not entirely sure. But you have to pay for it. Well, I do. They don't.

TCRP COMING SOON I PROMISE! It's that part of law school but it's gonna get much better very soon.

ENJOY!

In Episode 173 of The Two Jacks, hosts Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack break down a confronting and wide-ranging week in Australian news, politics, and culture. The episode opens with an urgent discussion on Australia's domestic violence epidemic following three fatal incidents across regional and metropolitan communities, examining stubbornly high homicide rates, non-intimate familial violence, and the breakdown in enforcing intervention orders.

Turning to Canberra, the Jacks assess Anthony Albanese's slump in Newspoll ratings, Siobhan McKenna's appointment as Consul-General in New York, and the persistent political headaches surrounding ministerial perks—headlined by Transport Minister Catherine King's lifetime Qantas Platinum status and the exclusive culture of the Chairman's Lounge. The conversation heats up around Pauline Hanson: her widely condemned remarks regarding First Nations Australians, the unprecedented united condemnation from Indigenous senators across party lines, and her targeted attacks on Albanese's late mother over historic public housing tenancy.

The hosts also tackle the national immigration debate, contrasting One Nation's drastic visa-slashing platform with Labor's incremental policy adjustments against a backdrop of acute regional labour shortages. They explore border enforcement anomalies—including the arrest of convicted murderer Paul Offer in connection with a tracking device placed on former detective Gary Jubelin's car—and examine systemic child welfare failures in Port Hedland.

Rounding out the program, the Jacks debate proposed legislation to introduce an opt-out switch for social media algorithms, answer listener mail on the future of the US Republican Party post-Trump and the legendary 1935 Sydney Shark Arm case, debunk birth-order IQ myths, and unpack the $100 million sale of Double Bay's Royal Oak Hotel. Finally, they deliver their verdicts on the AFL and NRL preliminary finals and share a laugh over a bizarre weekend in Australian cricket.

1. Australia's Domestic Violence Crisis & Systemic Failures

• Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack reflect on a harrowing weekend where three Australian women were killed in separate domestic violence incidents, including a 90-year-old grandmother in Sydney, a 23-year-old woman in Wagga Wagga, and a woman in northern New South Wales.
• The hosts analyse national homicide data, highlighting that domestic and family violence accounts for approximately 40% of all homicides in Australia, split evenly between intimate partner killings and broader familial homicides.
• The discussion covers the front-line pressures faced by police attending volatile call-outs, historical reporting shifts, and the frequent failure of Apprehended Violence Orders (AVOs) and Intervention Orders (ISOs) to deter determined offenders.
• Reference is made to the need for deeper cultural accountability and education among young men rather than relying solely on legal remedies.

2. Federal Politics, Polling Pressures & Diplomatic Gigs

• Anthony Albanese faces a slump in public polling with Labor's primary vote falling to 27%, coinciding with his visit to the United Nations to receive a global citizen award.
• The appointment of Siobhan McKenna as Australian Consul-General in New York is examined, with Hong Kong Jack outlining the historical business and political ties between the Murdoch organisation and the prestigious posting.
• The hosts weigh upcoming electoral tests for both major parties in Victoria and New South Wales, alongside One Nation's polling gains.

3. The Qantas Perks Furor & The Chairman's Lounge

• Scrutiny lands on Federal Transport Minister Catherine King after her parliamentary pecuniary interest register disclosed a lifetime Qantas Platinum status gift.
• Jack the Insider questions whether transparency around declared gifts should trigger public outrage, warning that relentless scrutiny over minor perks deters capable people from entering public life.
• Hong Kong Jack counters that Qantas's historic practice of handing out elite access and Chairman's Lounge memberships creates an undeniable perception of undue corporate influence across politics, the judiciary, and senior public service.

4. Pauline Hanson Controversies: Indigenous Remarks & Attacks on Maryanne Albanese

• Indigenous Affairs Minister Malarndirri McCarthy and all four Indigenous federal senators deliver a united cross-party condemnation of Pauline Hanson following her offensive description of First Nations Australians.
• The Jacks analyse Hanson's history of race-based political rhetoric, her qualified apologies, and whether such controversies place an electoral ceiling on One Nation's growing vote.
• Hanson's public criticism of Anthony Albanese regarding his late mother, Maryanne Albanese, remaining in her Camperdown public housing home until her death in 2002 is placed under factual review.
• Jack the Insider details the reality: Albanese was on a standard backbencher salary at the time, while his mother was an independent disability pensioner entitled to retain the home she had resided in for over six decades.

5. The National Migration Debate & Enforcement Logistics

• One Nation unrolls an aggressive migration strategy fronted by Barnaby Joyce, proposing to cut 750,000 temporary visas and enforce negative net migration before settling on a 130,000 annual intake.
• The hosts critique both One Nation's economically disruptive targets and the Albanese government's modest adjustments, noting strong pushback from the agricultural sector over backpacker reforms.
• Practical realities of border enforcement are weighed, questioning the feasibility of One Nation's plan to involuntarily deport 80,000 non-compliant visa holders annually.

6. Crime, Deportations & Child Welfare in Remote Australia

• The hosts review the arrest of convicted murderer Paul Offer following the discovery of a tracking device attached to the private vehicle of former NSW homicide detective Gary Jubelin.
• Jack the Insider questions the administrative processes behind visa cancellations, contrasting Offer's circumstances with historical deportation appeals where national service exemptions were successfully argued in the High Court.
• Revelations from Port Hedland concerning vulnerable Indigenous children living unsupervised in squalid state housing prompt a discussion on caseworker burnout, state jurisdictional obligations, and the historical sensitivities of child welfare interventions.

7. Regulating Social Media & The Proposed Algorithm Switch

• A look into legislative proposals aimed at curbing algorithm-driven content feeds on social media platforms, including proposals for an opt-out toggle.
• The hosts assess the risks of algorithm-driven radicalisation and anger loops on young users alongside concerns regarding censorship and government oversight of digital content.

8. Listener Inquiries, Science & Sydney Folklore

• Listener Lawrence asks what lies ahead for the US Republican Party post-Trump, prompting discussion on party fundraising capture and congressional dynamics.
• Listener Ray prompts a retelling of Sydney's infamous 1935 Shark Arm Case, where a captive tiger shark in Coogee coughed up a murdered boxer's tattooed arm, culminating in an acquittal based on the argument that an arm does not constitute proof of death.
• Debunking birth order stereotypes: a review of the 2015 study revealing that firstborns only average a negligible single IQ point advantage over subsequent siblings.
• Double Bay's Royal Oak Hotel commands a record $100 million sale price, sparking nostalgic yarns about Sydney identity John Singleton, underworld figure Stan "The Man" Smith, and colourful characters from decades past.

9. Sports Round-up: AFL, NRL & Cricket

• AFL Preliminary Finals review: Hawthorn's contentious holding-the-ball finish, Brisbane's path forward without the suspended Lachie Neale, and Fremantle's push for a historic maiden premiership.
• Listener James's query regarding the Adelaide Crows' 2025 performance, assessing midfield deficiencies and trade rumours involving Chad Warner and Nick Blakey.
• NRL finals overview featuring Newcastle, the Sydney Roosters, and the Penrith Panthers.
• Weekend cricket highlights: an extraordinary sky-high "moon ball" delivery dismissal, Australia's nail-biting one-wicket win over Zimbabwe off the final ball, and Marnus Labuschagne's expensive bowling spell for Queensland against Victoria.

• 00:25 – Welcome to Episode 173: Monday banter and weekend catch-up.
• 00:46 – Australia's Domestic Violence Emergency: Three horrific killings and national homicide statistics.
• 09:00 – Frontline Reality: The limits of AVOs, court responses, and police intervention.
• 12:21 – Federal Politics: Albo's 27-point Newspoll slump and Siobhan McKenna's New York posting.
• 16:40 – Electoral Fault Lines: Victoria, New South Wales, and One Nation's polling reach.
• 19:32 – High-Flying Perks: Catherine King's lifetime Qantas status and Chairman's Lounge scrutiny.
• 26:01 – Senate Outcry: Bipartisan Indigenous senators demand an apology from Pauline Hanson.
• 32:30 – The Migration Policy Divide: Barnaby Joyce's One Nation cuts vs Tony Burke's Labor targets.
• 43:48 – True Crime & Borders: The Gary Jubelin tracking device and Paul Offer's deportation status.
• 46:37 – Historical Precedents: The Turnbull-era deportee who invoked national service.
• 48:13 – Port Hedland Crisis: Neglected children, mining wealth disparity, and caseworker burnout.
• 54:37 – Fact-Checking Hanson: The truth behind Maryanne Albanese's public housing tenancy.
• 56:53 – Killing the Algorithm: Teen social media bans, the anger machine, and opt-out switches.
• 01:04:46 – Listener Question (Lawrence): What happens to the GOP once Donald Trump departs?
• 01:07:35 – Listener Mailbag (Ray): Sydney's bizarre 1935 Shark Arm true crime mystery.
• 01:10:18 – AFL Mailbag (James): Adelaide Crows 2025 review and trade targets.
• 01:13:52 – Science Fact-Check: Are firstborn siblings actually smarter?
• 01:15:35 – Underworld & High Rollers: Double Bay's Royal Oak sells for $100M.
• 01:19:21 – AFL Preliminary Finals: Controversial umpiring and Lions vs Dockers Grand Final preview.
• 01:23:12 – NRL Finals Update: Roosters, Knights, and the Penrith hurdle.
• 01:23:41 – Cricket Capers: The eight-metre moon ball, Zimbabwe thriller, and Marnus Labuschagne's final over.
• 01:28:14 – Episode wrap-up and sign-off.

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It is Hong Kong Jack's birthday, and the Two Jacks mark the occasion with a long, wide-ranging episode recorded on the eve of the 25th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

The show opens with Pauline Hanson's refusal to remove a cartoon from her website branding Liberal MP Andrew Hastie a traitor — eight times over. Barnaby Joyce has apologised, One Nation candidates are expressing discomfort, but Hanson will not budge. Jack the Insider argues her truculence is a delusion shared by populists everywhere: the belief that backing down is weakness. Ironically, the affair has burnished Hastie's credentials as a potential Coalition leader. From there, the hosts turn to the Prime Minister's handling of the Marrickville Golf Club membership controversy — a one-day story turned into a one-week saga by Albanese taking umbrage rather than simply admitting an oversight.

The conversation broadens into the global rise of populism: revelations about a One Nation candidate in Victoria; ASIO Director-General Mike Burgess's expression of deep regret over the October 9 Opera House rally and his warning that normalised behaviours raised the temperature and increased the permission for politically motivated violence; and Germany's state elections, where the AFD's surge in Saxony comes despite the state having one of the lowest foreign-born populations in the country. Chancellor Merz, with 75 per cent disapproval, may be finished. A proposed Constitutional Court ban on the AFD is, in Hong Kong Jack's view, just about the worst thing Germany could do.

Across the Atlantic, the Lindsay Clancy mistrial in Massachusetts — a jury split 11-1 for acquittal after 40 hours, with postpartum depression at the centre of the defence — prompts a wider discussion of the US justice system. Donald Trump's midterm rally speech earns scrutiny too: the pledge of five thousand dollars for every adult male, his claim to have outrated the NFL (2.5 million viewers against 28.3 million), and his falling asleep during the reading of the names at the 9/11 commemoration. The hosts close that section with reflections from John Howard and Kevin Rudd on where they were 25 years ago.

Finally, the footy: an NFL crowd of 100,000 at the MCG to watch the 49ers beat the Rams; Russell Jackson's ABC story on racism allegations at Hawthorn and North Melbourne, which the Jacks find lacking in evidence; Cricket Australia's BBL privatisation push; and finals predictions for the AFL and NRL. The birthday show signs off, fittingly, with the arrest of a Nigerian prince in California.

All times include the 25-second theme music.

• 00:00:27 — Welcome; happy birthday Hong Kong Jack
• 00:01:19 — Pauline Hanson refuses to remove Andrew Hastie "traitor" cartoon
• 00:05:30 — The PM and the Marrickville Golf Club: a one-day story becomes a one-week saga
• 00:07:03 — Populists and the delusion that they can do no wrong
• 00:08:08 — One Nation's Victorian candidate: drugs and sexual deviance allegations
• 00:18:17 — ASIO's Mike Burgess on the October 9 rally and politically motivated violence
• 00:40:13 — Germany's state elections: the AFD's surge in Saxony
• 00:48:15 — The AFD, remigration rhetoric and anti-Semitism
• 00:57:44 — Chancellor Merz at 75 per cent disapproval; the proposed AFD ban
• 00:59:34 — The Lindsay Clancy mistrial in Massachusetts
• 01:10:03 — Trump's midterm speech: five grand for every adult male and the ratings claim
• 01:11:38 — 9/11 at 25: Trump asleep at the commemoration; Howard and Rudd remember
• 01:25:42 — NFL at the MCG: the 49ers down the Rams before 100,000
• 01:28:33 — Russell Jackson, the ABC and the Hawthorn–North Melbourne racism allegations
• 01:38:01 — Cricket Australia and BBL privatisation
• 01:39:42 — AFL finals: Freo, the Swans, the Hawks and the Lions
• 01:41:27 — NRL finals: Panthers, Warriors, Sharks and Cowboys
• 01:42:43 — A Nigerian prince finally caught — in California

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In Episode 171 of The Two Jacks, hosts Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack unpack a consequential week in Australian federal and state politics, international developments, and sporting turmoil. The show begins with an in-depth post-mortem of the Secret Harbour by-election in Western Australia, where One Nation secured a shock victory amid massive double-digit swings against both Labor and the Liberal Party. The Jacks dissect focus group findings illustrating the visceral disconnect between ordinary Australians and the major-party political class, alongside the cringe-inducing social media gimmicks employed by politicians who talk down to the public.

The discussion turns to diplomatic missteps, including Australia's pre-COP attendance troubles in the Pacific and the limitations of using a new PNG NRL franchise as a soft-diplomacy counterweight to foreign influence. In New South Wales, the hosts examine Premier Chris Minns's second-guessing of police crowd control at the Sydney Opera House protests and push back against a controversial parliamentary inquiry into historical cold cases that threatens to air unsubstantiated allegations against Ivan Milat under parliamentary privilege.

The episode also tackles the economic catastrophe of Australia's runaway tobacco excise, which has created a thriving organised crime black market, before debating listener feedback on teenage alcohol consumption at private school functions and overzealous RSA crackdowns. On the world stage, the Jacks cover Spain's escalating border crisis in Ceuta and Melilla, undercover foreign-funding scandals surrounding Nigel Farage's Reform UK, European Union proposals to pool private savings, and the technique of "flooding the zone" in US politics. The show concludes with analysis of North Melbourne parting ways with Alastair Clarkson, an update on the AFL and NRL finals races, reflections on crowd declines in Test cricket, and a heartfelt tribute to the life and legacy of Indigenous boxing great Tony Mundine.

• 00:00:25 — Welcome & Hong Kong Weather Check: Seasonal transitions, humidity, and the noisy return of school terms.
• 00:01:25 — Secret Harbour By-Election Shock: One Nation candidate Luke Kurtigan sweeps to victory amid severe swings against both major parties in Western Australia.
• 00:07:35 — "They're Not Us": Focus group revelations, the collapse of major party credibility, and local council bin collection frustrations.
• 00:11:39 — Crossbench Reality: One Nation's mixed messaging on immigration, David Farley's uneasy party ties, and the structural irrelevance of a single upper-house seat.
• 00:15:43 — Social Media Condescension: Politicians explaining policy with Ooshies, car-seat videos, and the scourge of political "theatre kids" as media advisors.
• 00:20:01 — Pacific Diplomacy & Soft Power: Weak interest in Chris Bowen's pre-COP talks and whether a PNG NRL franchise can counter regional diplomatic shifts.
• 00:23:47 — Sydney Opera House Protests: Premier Chris Minns's retrospective criticism of police management versus the practical realities of crowd control.
• 00:28:42 — Cold Case Inquiries & Parliamentary Privilege: Jeremy Buckingham's push to investigate missing persons and the debunked theories linking Ivan Milat to the Wanda Beach murders.
• 00:32:45 — Illicit Tobacco & Failed Public Policy: How unchecked excise tax escalation since Nicola Roxon fueled a lucrative black market and organised crime.
• 00:37:13 — Teenage Drinking & Southern Highlands "Prohibition": School function alcohol debates, parental attitudes, and extreme RSA enforcement during local race days.
• 00:44:56 — Spain's Border Flashpoint: Mass migrant arrivals in Ceuta and Melilla, Spanish Supreme Court rulings on summary returns, and domestic political backlash.
• 00:52:54 — UK Politics & Reform UK Scandal: Undercover stings expose illicit foreign polling funds for Nigel Farage, while Labour ties Reform in the polls.
• 01:03:43 — Public Ownership vs. Economic Growth: Andy Burnham's push to renationalise UK rail and water infrastructure.
• 01:06:14 — Australia's Economic Stagnation: Negative productivity data, sticky inflation, and why Hawke-Keating style deregulation remains essential.
• 01:09:12 — European Union Capital Schemes: Ursula von der Leyen's plan for EU-wide voluntary savings accounts and the risks of centralised investment.
• 01:14:41 — US Political Landscape: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's natural communication skills, James Talarico in Texas, and Donald Trump's "flood the zone" messaging.
• 01:20:19 — AFL Coaching Shakeup: Alastair Clarkson dismissed at North Melbourne, Todd Viney's candid press conference, and the obsolescence of authoritarian coaching.
• 01:28:30 — AFL Wildcard Debate & Adelaide Crows Leaks: Carlton's finals entry and board pressure on Matthew Nicks.
• 01:31:18 — NRL Final Round: The New Zealand Warriors' surge, finals positioning, and the top-eight outlook.
• 01:32:19 — Cricket Diplomacy & Declining Test Crowds: Imran Khan's detainment tensions and the vanishing spectator base for Test matches in South Africa and the West Indies.
• 01:35:36 — Vale Tony Mundine: Honoring the middleweight world title contender, Redfern gym mentor, and Indigenous sporting hero.
• 01:37:02 — Episode Sign-Off: How to contact the show via email, Twitter, and Substack.

Bloody hell it's a big one listeners. There's a lot to go through. We are only scratching the surface.

Mr. Insider alongside John Ferguson and Liam Mendes have unearthed new details about who may or may not have been harbouring Dezi Freeman after he murdered two police that were executing a search warrant in relation to alleged child sex offences. A few pseudolegal sovcits are going to be even more paranoid than usual.

March for Australia was a raging success. Don't believe your lying eyes, it was massive. Just ask Nepo Nazi Hugo Lennon and the Neo-Nazi Newspaper 'the noticer' - it was massive bro just trust me.

Bird flu is reaching new heights of stupidity with penguin death panels meeting to plot the murder of little gay penguins across our great land. Follow the money! It's a conspiracy! They can't say no!

TVL approaches Michaelia Cash at the Secret Harbour by-election (where TVL was a candidate) and puts herself forward as Governor-General. We play the clip. It's kinda funny but mostly sad.

AND Chris sends us a lead on SignalSandra - an antivax scammer who is promising to submit vaccination certificates to medicare for a price. But it looks like it's just a scam. But hey, if you want a testimonial to the success of the proposition just ask Sandra - she reckons it worked really well.

And Zippy Babet, who is an idiot, launches a print on demand merch line where a $100 gift card is an absolute bargain at $141.69 - staunch pricing from a staunch patriot.

Enjoy!

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1. One Nation's Immigration Muddle, 18C on Trial, and Tampa 25 Years On
2. Farley the Throwback, AI Bubble Warnings and the Swans Self-Destruct
3. From Narrandera to Norway: Immigration, Data Centres and Banning AI in Schools
4. The Two Jacks on Pauline Hanson vs 18C, the UK's Boat Camps and America's Voting Mess
5. Cocaine Capital, $600 Grams in Perth and a 49ers Billionaire in a Trailer Park Sting
6. Bloods Culture to Boarding School: Tampa, Tribunals and What Went Wrong at the Swans

Episode 170 is a wide-ranging end-of-winter news wrap from Sydney and Hong Kong.

Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack start with One Nation's confused immigration numbers - David Farley suggesting an intake not far from Labor's, Pauline Hanson unclear on net overseas migration - and ask whether vagueness matters when neither government nor opposition has a clear story either. Farley, the Narrandera-based former Labor aspirant now with One Nation, is singled out as a throwback to old Country Party-style ministers like Doug Anthony, Ian Sinclair and Peter Nixon - rural common sense and real-world experience.

The conversation moves to energy and tech. The Albanese government's proposal that new data centres from mid-next year need their own water source and 100% renewable power triggers a debate about global electricity demand. Data centre consumption is projected to double from 460 TWh in 2024 to over 1000 TWh by 2030. The Jacks question small modular nuclear reactors in Australia and warn of an AI investment bubble, with 15% of the S&P 500 now AI-configured and Chinese open-source models undercutting expensive US startups.

On law, they unpack Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act. Context is Pauline Hanson's 2022 tweet to Greens Senator Mehreen Faruqi telling her to "piss off back to Pakistan" after Faruqi's comments on Queen Elizabeth, which led to a Federal Court finding and a reported $200,000 penalty. Hanson is seeking leave to appeal to the High Court. The Jacks also discuss the White Australia Party's attempt to circumvent hate-group laws linked to the National Socialist Network and ASIO's role, and debate whether repugnant speech should be illegal.

Twenty-five years on from the MV Tampa, they revisit the Howard-era response, children overboard, the excision of Christmas Island and other northern territories from the migration zone, and the legacy of mandatory detention introduced under Keating. Hong Kong Jack draws on his ten years on the Refugee Review Tribunal, including a harrowing self-harm incident during a video hearing in Woomera.

Internationally: the UK's new camps for unscheduled boat arrivals after the High Court blocked the Rwanda plan, and the problematic Daily Mail reporting of gyms, football pitches and halal-only food; the US Supreme Court allowing state-based moves to restrict mail-in ballots, the stalled SAVE Act requiring birth certificates to vote and its impact on married women, and why America needs an AEC-style independent electoral commission.

The Jacks note Norway banning generative AI in primary schools and restricting it in upper years after a decline in reading and writing, and pay tribute to Dolly Parton and the Dollywood Foundation's 325 million books program as a springboard into phonics vs whole-language teaching. Jack the Insider credits his mother and the Whitlam-era disadvantaged schools program for championing phonics.

Court and crime: a mistrial in Pennsylvania after a juror allegedly smoked marijuana in the jury room during a murder trial; and Australia's cocaine problem in the context of the Sydney Swans hotel-room scandal. The Jacks discuss the legal risk of supply of a trafficable quantity (15 years in Victoria), self-reporting data suggesting 4% to 11% usage, 1500 possession arrests in the Eastern Suburbs, $600 a gram in Perth creating a Nullarbor business model, and the shift to crystal meth where cocaine is scarce.

Sport to close: Italy's Giorgia Meloni becoming the longest-serving PM of the Italian Republic, polling 25-26% for Brothers of Italy as a buffer against the harder right; the Swans culture piece by Andrew Webster - the end of the Bloods self-sacrifice era of Kirk and Kelly, late nights at the Beach Road and Clovelly Hotels, adult entertainment in the team hotel, four-week bans, presumption of innocence, and Nick Blakey demanding a trade to North Melbourne where his father played; NRL - Roosters and Panthers as premiership threats; AFL - Carlton vs Melbourne as a clash of new game plans; cricket - England vs Pakistan at Lord's, Pakistan in disarray, Babar Azam out of form, and whether Marnus Labuschagne should tour South Africa or if he is at the "thanks for your service" stage; and finally the NFL - the San Francisco 49ers CEO caught in a police sting in East Palestine, Ohio, $140 agreed on WhatsApp, no trailer or brothel at the lot, two days jail with credit for time served and $1000 in fines and costs.

Next week: listener feedback on booze and upper-middle-class parenting.

Australian Politics: One Nation immigration policy split between David Farley and Pauline Hanson, net overseas migration confusion, Albanese wedge politics, Opposition property ban for temporary residents, Labor's delayed immigration announcement and refugee intake numbers.

Energy and Technology: Data centres in Australia, water and renewable requirements, small-scale nuclear reactors in Russia and China, global power demand, AI bubble vs dotcom bubble, US vs Chinese AI models, S&P 500 exposure.

Law and Free Speech: Section 18C - offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate, Pauline Hanson vs Mehreen Faruqi Federal Court decision, High Court leave to appeal process, White Australia Party and National Socialist Network, hate group laws, implied freedom of political communication.

Immigration History: 25th anniversary of Tampa, MV Tampa and Captain, Merak and Christmas Island, children overboard, excision of Australian territories, mandatory detention, Woomera, Port Hedland, Villawood and Maribyrnong, Manus Island and Nauru costs.

UK and US: UK mandatory processing centres, minibuses, no-document arrivals, security risks and Nick Radev case, Daily Mail coverage; US mail-in ballots, electoral rolls, SAVE Act, automatic voter registration in Oregon/Washington/California, gerrymandering and partisan control, Ross Perot and third-party candidates.

Education and Culture: Norway AI ban, iPads in schools, national testing decline, phonics revival in Australia, Dr Seuss, John and Betty readers, Dolly Parton and literacy, scholarships for Year 7 retention.

Courts and Drugs: Pennsylvania juror and devil's lettuce mistrial, field sobriety and judge's chambers process, Christian Brothers at St Pat's Ballarat, Sydney Swans scandal and allegations of indecent assault, white powder found, trafficable quantity laws, Australia as highest self-reported cocaine users, Double Bay and Waverley Local Court, cardiac risks.

Sport: Swans culture, Isaac Heeney, Chad Warner, Nick Blakey trade to North Melbourne, Andrew Webster SMH column, AFL finals odds Sydney at $34, NRL Warriors Roosters Panthers, Carlton vs Melbourne injuries, England vs Pakistan second Test, Marnus Labuschagne technique and Steve Smith comparison, Ricky Ponting assessment, San Francisco 49ers CEO East Palestine sting.

All timestamps below are adjusted by +25 seconds to account for theme music at the top of the episode.

00:00:25 - Open: End of winter in Sydney and the Highlands, mid-20s, bracing for a stinking hot summer. Hong Kong Jack on the Hungry Ghost Festival heat and humidity.

00:01:54 - One Nation's immigration numbers: David Farley vs Pauline Hanson, does vagueness matter?

00:03:36 - Old Country Party ministers: Doug Anthony, Ian Sinclair, Peter Nixon, Peter Walsh, John Kerin, Mick Young. Farley as a rural common-sense throwback and best new MP in ages.

00:04:39 - How long will Farley stay with One Nation? History of independents.

00:06:07 - Government and Opposition also unclear on migration, cabinet donnybrook, Albo's populist instincts and a potential wedge.

00:14:50 - Data centres are coming to Australia: Albanese plan for own water source and renewables from July 1 next year.

00:15:52 - Small modular nuclear: one in Russia, one in China, cost issues, worldwide energy growth before AI.

00:16:47 - Electricity to double: 460 TWh in 2024 to 1000+ TWh by 2030, S&P 500 AI exposure, trillions invested.

00:18:50 - Tech bubble vs AI bubble: companies with no revenue then vs Meta and Google with revenue now, but startup risk for Anthropic and others.

00:21:41 - What is Section 18C? Offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate explained.

00:22:23 - Pauline Hanson tweet to Mehreen Faruqi "piss off back to Pakistan", Queen Elizabeth context, Federal Court appeal, $200k fine, High Court leave.

00:23:12 - White Australia Party, National Socialist Network, ASIO recommendation to Home Affairs Minister to shut down hate groups.

00:25:38 - Will Hanson succeed? Prediction 18C rendered toothless on offend/insult/humiliate.

00:28:08 - 25 years since Tampa: ABC docudrama, Norwegian tanker MV Tampa, 2001.

00:29:26 - Children overboard, Peter Reith gilding the lily.

00:30:43 - How Tampa changed the rules permanently: no unscheduled arrival lands in migration zone.

00:32:12 - Refugee Tribunal reality: Woomera/Port Hedland video hearing, self-harm incident, need for thick skin.

00:35:00 - UK's new camps after Rwanda failure, mandatory processing, fingerprints, 17 minibuses, not locked up like Villawood.

00:38:27 - Security risk: Nick Radev - Nick the Russian/Bulgarian, wiped criminal history, prison tattoos, arriving with clean sheet.

00:42:46 - SCOTUS and US mail-in ballots: state administrators, postal workers, accurate electoral rolls, attempt to slow mail voting.

00:49:21 - Norway bans generative AI in primary schools, iPads since 1990s, decline in reading/writing, return to books.

00:51:30 - Dolly Parton tribute: Dollywood Foundation 325 million books to US, Ireland, UK, Australia, NZ, functional illiteracy, pathway to imagination. 4,000 songs and 9 to 5 story with Jane Fonda and Lily Tomlin.

00:57:30 - Phonics vs whole language: Dolly's father, $500 scholarships to get through Year 7, Australian education decline, Whitlam disadvantaged schools program, Dr Seuss and Cat in the Hat 1957.

01:01:22 - Devil's lettuce in the jury room: Pennsylvania murder trial of Saffron Gump and Gregory Prince, juror smoked in fifth-floor room, lawyers argue prescription, judge calls jurors one by one, mistrial, boarding school parallels.

01:04:31 - Cocaine and the Swans: Australian article, two bags of white powder in hotel room, no one claims ownership, supply trafficable quantity 15 years jail, agency providing girls.

01:07:29 - Australia's cocaine appetite: biggest users in world on self-reporting, 4% to 11%, tradies on the bags, financial and legal sectors, Double Bay 1500 possession arrests.

01:12:53 - $600 a gram in Perth, Nullarbor drug run business model, when cocaine scarce users turn to crystal meth.

01:14:58 - Italy: Giorgia Meloni longest-serving PM of Italian Republic, Brothers of Italy polling 25.4 to 26.4%, buffer against extreme right, far-right label rendered meaningless.

01:17:38 - Swans culture: Brett Kirk and Paul Kelly Bloods era vs now, Andrew Webster column, Beach Road Hotel and Clovelly Hotel, self-sacrificing myth.

01:20:22 - Hotel scandal: 4am return, 7am bus, adult entertainment, disrespect for teammates, four-week bans near certain, victims and presumption of innocence.

01:25:26 - Nick Blakey demands immediate trade, North Melbourne link, dad John Blakey, Heeney Warner and Blakey as top liners someone will want.

01:26:09 - NRL: Warriors, Roosters premiership winning form if past Panthers.

01:26:38 - AFL tonight: Carlton vs Melbourne preview, injuries to Lever, Will Hayward, attractive footy and game plan changes.

01:28:20 - Cricket England vs Pakistan at Lord's: Pakistan dismissed cheaply, in disarray, Joe Root captaincy phone call.

01:29:46 - Does Marnus Labuschagne go to South Africa? Renshaw, Campbell Callaway, Oliver Peake options, Ricky Ponting says thanks for your service.

01:32:30 - NFL not football: San Francisco 49ers CEO in East Palestine, Ohio trailer park sting, WhatsApp $140, no trailer there, two days jail with time served, $1000 fines, attempt to seal records denied, quick trip to Tiffany's.

01:35:?? - Close: Spring next week, listener feedback on booze and parenting coming up.

This using Google Gemini 3.7 Flash using extended mode. Got a free thing for uni so giving this a whirl. It's not that good.

The Jacks dive into the ongoing debate surrounding the Royal Commission into Antisemitism and Social Cohesion, examining the limits of royal commissions in resolving complex social and security issues compared to criminal investigations. They scrutinise the announcement of Victoria's Big Build Royal Commission, the appointment of a special prosecutor, and Fiona Brown’s $2 million Commonwealth settlement. The conversation turns to explosive reports of Exclusive Brethren members funneling cash to far-right political agitators, before shifting overseas to assess Andy Burnham's opening month as UK Prime Minister, shifting European politics, and the tragic fallout of the Jason Arday media storm. Finally, the hosts dissect the massive fallout from the Sydney Swans hotel scandal on the eve of the AFL finals and examine the Australian cricket team's shock Test defeat against Bangladesh.

00:00:26 - Episode Introduction: Ghost Month in Hong Kong and local headlines.

00:01:57 - The Royal Commission into Antisemitism: High-profile critics, scope limitations, and the Bondi trial boundary.

00:07:15 - Broken systems: Australia's fragmented firearms registries and the limits of public inquiries.

00:13:34 - Free speech, social cohesion, and the ethics of doxxing.

00:21:35 - Victoria's Big Build Royal Commission: Dan Andrews, CFMEU costs, and the special prosecutor role.

00:27:18 - Fiona Brown's $2M Commonwealth settlement and John Howard's rebuke of political handling.

00:30:55 - Duffle bags of cash: Exclusive Brethren funding of political disruptions and the legal hurdles of regulating campaign conduct.

00:38:55 - The legal definition of a cult, Scientology High Court precedents, and Nick Xenophon’s Senate battles.

00:45:13 - International Brief: Mélenchon and the French Left, plus Andy Burnham's first month as UK Prime Minister.

00:49:55 - Populist dynamics: Nigel Farage’s Reform UK versus Pauline Hanson's One Nation.

00:53:25 - The lighter side: Andrew Tate supporters performing push-ups outside prison.

00:55:10 - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's social media mastery and emerging US Democratic contenders.

01:00:32 - The Jason Arday tragedy: Media scrutiny, academic vetting, and press freedom debates.

01:07:05 - Sydney Swans hotel scandal: Player suspensions, finals derailment, and cultural damage at the Bloods.

01:23:25 - Cricket wrap: Bangladesh stuns Australia in Darwin, selection dilemmas ahead of Mackay, and Nathan Lyon's future.

01:32:03 - Update on Imran Khan’s hospitalisation and episode wrap-up.

This one is Claude Sonnet 5 - did a decent job. Got Gemini to do it at the same time and it was SHIT.

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Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack open with an air-conditioner instalation story that would give any WHS officer a heart attack, before diving into the immigration debate consuming the Western world, Albo's cringeworthy podcast melon gag and the diplomatic fallout with Japan, Angus Taylor's Twitter misfire, a grim Newspoll for Labor, the conviction of former Bishop Christopher Saunders, the unravelling Mahmoud Fazal/Four Corners scandal, an AI Royal Commission, Israel's rejection of the Gaza peace plan, Ukraine's drone edge, a spot of Marxism 101, and a bumper sports wrap covering the Ashes build-up, Geelong's concussion waiver scandal and the NRL's new PNG and Perth franchises.

00:00:26 — Cold open: Hong Kong air-con drama. Hong Kong Jack recounts tradesmen scaling the building exterior, tying off to a sewer pipe and rigging a platform in under an hour — a workplace safety non-starter back home.

00:01:20 — Immigration policy in limbo. Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke pulls his National Press Club address after Cabinet gets cold feet on migration numbers; One Nation capitalises on the vacuum.

00:02:17 — Paul Kelly on the West's immigration reckoning. The hosts unpack Kelly's column on multiculturalism's failures in Europe versus its comparative success in Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the US, and why a clear pathway to national identity matters.

00:04:23 — The politician/public disconnect. A Financial Times study (John Burn-Murdoch) showing big gaps between public and political opinion on migrant assimilation across Britain, Germany, the Netherlands and Sweden.

00:06:10 — Is the far right the cause or the symptom? A robust back-and-forth on whether One Nation, AfD, Reform UK and Le Pen's party are driving the backlash or simply capitalising on governments that lost control of migration systems.

00:08:50 — Albo's podcast melon gag fallout. The PM's crass "melons" line about the Japanese Prime Minister on a comedy podcast draws a diplomatic complaint from Tokyo and calls for an apology he still hasn't given.

00:10:39 — Why politicians chase the "youth" podcast circuit. Discussion of Albo's ties to Sandilands-style FM radio and whether the audience numbers justify the reputational risk.

00:12:32 — Latika Bourke's double standard question. Would a corporate CEO survive the same scrutiny as a Prime Minister? The Jacks disagree on how novel the standard really is.

00:14:14 — Angus Taylor's Twitter misfire. A dissected, over-written tweet accusing the "socialist" Albanese government lands badly — "people might think they're bumbling fools, but they don't think they're socialist."

00:15:53 — Angus Taylor and the ICAC donation question. A circular exchange over an unresolved email regarding a potential donation tied to a group under ICAC scrutiny.

00:17:52 — Coalition social media strategy. Jane Hume's five-a-day Instagram habit and whether the Coalition's messaging is landing with anyone at this point in the electoral cycle.

00:18:52 — Productivity and work-from-home. Westpac CEO Anthony Miller warns rates could stay elevated into 2028 without a productivity fix; Victoria shelves its work-from-home legislation ahead of the planned 1 September start.

00:21:36 — Red tape and the housing/business regulation debate. Building approval bottlenecks, the Coalition's building-standards rollback proposal, and why company/tax reporting (not ABN registration) is the real handicap for small business.

00:24:14 — Newspoll: Labor's primary vote "plunges." Labor down to 29 percent (from 31), described by the Jacks as more "meandering" than plunging — with a look at how far off Labor is from its 34.5 percent election benchmark.

00:25:31 — Kos Samaras/RedBridge on the new voter blocs. A breakdown of Labor's inner-city, under-45, migrant-heavy base; One Nation's mortgage-stressed, outer-suburban trades vote; and the Coalition's shrinking, wealthy, over-55 remnant — plus where the Jacks think the analysis oversimplifies.

00:28:42 — How the Coalition lost its heartland. Reflections on 19 years of Coalition government since Howard, the failure to read demographic warning signs, and the loss of both the "asset rich" and "asset poor" ends of its old coalition.

00:31:49 — Content warning: child sexual abuse. Former Bishop of Broome Christopher Saunders, 76, found guilty of one count of sexual penetration and multiple indecent assault charges against a young Indigenous man; sentencing yet to be scheduled.

00:32:50 — Saunders' pattern of behaviour. Allegations of financial mismanagement, smuggling alcohol into dry Indigenous communities, a 2019 police raid uncovering exploitation material, and a Vatican finding he likely abused Indigenous youth.

00:34:59 — The Bishop Ronald Mulkearns parallel. The Ballarat bishop's Royal Commission appearance and mysterious final holiday hosted by Saunders in Broome shortly before his death.

00:37:06 — The Four Corners/Mahmoud Fazal scandal. Fazal's background as a self-described former Mongols bike gang sergeant-at-arms turned journalist; his Cocaine Nation and Meth Highway reports pulled from air, along with a Background Briefing program.

00:38:33 — Media Watch's verdict. Linton Besser's assessment that Fazal was "embellishing his journalism," and how ABC's editorial oversight failed across two flagship programs.

00:39:39 — The Jordan Shanks (Friendly Jordies) threat allegations. Fazal's alleged role relaying threats from the Alameddine crime family after Shanks' house was firebombed twice; Fazal disputes the death-threat characterisation.

00:41:36 — Where journalism crosses into participation. Jack the Insider's personal rule against interviewing active criminals, and a wider discussion of when reporters become "players" rather than observers — including a detour to the "Poison Dwarf," Clayton Milne.

00:46:20 — A 2006 ice epidemic documentary as the gold standard. A comparison piece where public health officials and police saw the crystal meth wave coming years before government — done properly, without masked, unverifiable sources.

00:48:21 — South Australia's $3 million AI Royal Commission. Premier Peter Malinauskas announces the inquiry; the Jacks are sceptical it will produce much, suspecting it's more about attracting AI investment.

00:49:27 — The AI investment bubble risk. Massive capital flowing into Anthropic, Meta and Google versus cheaper, competitive Chinese models — and what that imbalance could mean for the S&P 500's AI-heavy weighting.

00:51:00 — Israel rejects Trump's 15-point Gaza plan. Distrust that Hamas will disarm, and why the stakes feel existential rather than abstract for Israelis.

00:52:32 — Israel's 27 October election. Netanyahu's fragile coalition, Ben-Gvir and Finance Minister Smotrich's collapsing poll numbers, and the growing backlash over ultra-Orthodox exemptions from IDF service.

00:57:09 — Ukraine: Starlink access and drone warfare. Elon Musk restricting Ukrainian Starlink use against Russia, a declined meeting with Trump, and Ukraine's drone successes — including a joint exercise with US forces in Germany.

01:00:29 — Reports of distress aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln. Unconfirmed accounts of sailors going overboard after roughly ten months of continuous deployment.

01:01:52 — Stephen Kotkin on Marxism's enduring appeal. Why intellectuals keep returning to Marxist ideas despite the historical body count — and a tangent on campus recruitment, ASIO and the "special role" intellectuals imagine for themselves.

01:05:15 — Iran, Cambodia and the fate of the intellectual class. Historical examples of revolutions turning on the intelligentsia that helped bring them about.

01:06:06 — Sport check: the Ashes build-up begins. Australia's shaky start against Bangladesh, Steve Smith's lucky reprieve, and questions over Alex Carey's batting position and the middle order.

01:08:24 — Selection headaches: Labuschagne and Nathan Lyon. Marnus Labuschagne's technical struggles and whether Lyon plays out the year, with the World Test Championship and next year's Ashes on the horizon.

01:11:03 — Geelong's concussion contract waiver scandal. A player reportedly signing away his right to sue over concussion management; questions over why the club didn't submit the waiver to the AFL or AFLPA, and calls for points deductions rather than fines.

01:16:04 — Jake Kelly's likely retirement and player consent. Whether it matters who initiated the waiver, and why players will "sign anything" to keep playing despite long-term brain injury risks.

01:18:30 — NRL expansion: PNG Chiefs and Perth Bears. Tax-free salaries giving PNG Chiefs an effective cap advantage, players relocating to a purpose-built village in Port Moresby, and Perth's 2027 entry into the competition.

01:22:36 — Poaching rugby fans, AFL's expansion and wildcard finals. The Perth Bears' leadership, Tasmania Devils' draft concessions, Nigel Lappin's coaching move, and early impressions of the AFL's new wildcard finals round.

It's back to back news finishing up with a bit of heroin and a bit of crack.

First up we look at the census. This segment could have gone for about 3 days but we highlight some dumb shit surrounding the entirely uncontroversial 2026 census. Yeah, you really made albo upset by not filling it in. Nice work champion

Dr Daniel alerts us to an antivax lawsuit being run by a legal professional. But not a lawyer? Hmmm.

Jack discusses the guilty verdict of Bishop Chris Saunders who is a terrible piece of paedo shit who will hopefully die in gaol.

AND Mike Lindell loses his primary only to suggest - to everyone's surprise - that there were irregularities. Does he have ABSOLUTE PROOF of election fraud? Probably not, but there's enough crack left in this baggie to get us through to the next conspiracy theory in the midterms.

Lastly, instead of Babet or Pete we just smack RFK Jr on the end, the only man in the administration that makes Trump look healthy by comparison. Maybe ease up on the peptides there mate.