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We aren't doing the usual episode format this time and stripping it down to bare bones a bit. It took a little while for this one to come together - it's just been a bit of a shit week to be honest.

Once again this nation is seeing a tragedy strike that threatens our democracy in a fundamental way. And how do we deal with this? Once upon a time this would bring us together. We would console each other, seek answers and justice and generally handle it like mature, reasonable people.

Nah. Let's blame Albo. Or the Greens. It's that Shoebridge bloke he followed him! Or maybe it's all a conspiracy - Albo planned it!

What?

Helen Haines is an excellent person all round. Hard to fault her. We look at her background, her electorate and celebrate her decency.

Of course we have to look at the alleged perpetrator and look at the trail of breadcrumbs he left behind.

The thing we are not going to do is say that we know what he was thinking, why he did it - or blame some kind of random external factor that has absolutely nothing to do with it. We just don't know.

We recorded this on Sunday but it needed a bit of an edit. I think we both just found this a bit jarring to cover.

After the horrific handling of the Bondi tragedy you would think we are better than this. Apparently not.

This week Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack open with the rioting that has swept across France — from Bordeaux and Paris to Marseille — unpacking how a student protest over school closures metastasised into a broader movement against the French state. They trace its genesis, flag the racial and religious dimension signalled by Palestinian, Moroccan and Algerian flags, and examine what it could mean for Marine Le Pen ahead of a likely presidential tilt.

The pair then turn home, covering the Victorian election, the federal public servant pay rise, and a wider argument about productivity, growth and "late capitalism." From there they range across a resurgent far-right in Germany, Russian interference in Brexit, New Zealand's finely balanced election, and Indonesia's looming MSCI downgrade — a story they note is barely being reported in Australia despite its significance to our region.

Sport rounds out the show with Test cricket's uncertain future, the Wallabies' woes, the Rugby League World Cup, and a nod to the AFLW.

(Timestamps adjusted to include the 25-second theme music intro.)

• 00:25 — Jack the Insider welcomes listeners to Episode 176 and introduces Hong Kong Jack.
• 00:55 — Opening on the riots in Paris and Bordeaux, with footage of burning vehicles and looted stores, including the Apple Store and Louis Vuitton in Bordeaux.
• 01:52 — Genesis of the protests: the closure of roughly 400 schools and the involvement of students aged 15 to 18, later joined by university students and the "Yellow Vest" anarchist activists.
• 03:46 — Hong Kong Jack notes the Palestinian, Moroccan and Algerian flags, raising the racial and religious element.
• 04:25 — Le Pen's opportunism: supporting the police while milking grievances; a potential "stop Le Pen" coalition falling apart.
• 11:26 — Kevin Rudd's "democracy experiment" warning and the fragility of democracy worldwide.
• 12:33 — The "late capitalism" argument: the first generation with less wealth than its parents.
• 14:12 — Ben Carroll and the Victorian "red shirts" scandal; a month out from the Victorian election.
• 16:00 — The Albanese government's pay offer of at least 9% over three years to 200,000 federal public servants, below union demands for 15%.
• 16:35 — Matthias Cormann's productivity argument, and whether pay without productivity just raises prices.
• 21:54 — One Nation and the SMH's $275 billion revenue cost of slashing immigration; polling on Andy Burnham.
• 28:02 — The AfD's rise in Germany; the centre-right CDU shedding votes to the far-right, and the AfD leader's appeasement line on Russia and Ukraine.
• 32:25 — New Zealand's election and the kingmaker role of centrist party TOP (The Opportunities Party).
• 35:34 — Russian interference in Brexit: the ISC Russia report, bot farms, and the debate over whether interference changed the outcome.
• 41:00 — Why Australia's elections are harder to manipulate: the AEC, compulsory voting and compulsory preferences.
• 49:54 — Indonesia's MSCI downgrade — market manipulation and "ghost owners" — and the $3–5 billion in immediate outflows forecast by JP Morgan and UBS.
• 55:30 — How little Indonesian news reaches Australia, despite it being our most important geopolitical partner.
• 57:12 — The impact of One Nation on the federal election and the Nationals' survival in regional Australia.
• 01:09:00 — Test cricket's future and the financial struggles of West Indies cricket.
• 01:19:45 — The Wallabies' second-half capitulation to the All Blacks and the "Giteau Law" eligibility question.
• 01:21:45 — The Rugby League World Cup's group structure and whether Australia is too dominant.
• 01:25:00 — AFLW: Geelong over the Eagles, and a high-skill Giants–Hawthorn clash.
• 01:27:00 — Sign-off and DMs open on X.

1. Riots in France, Red Shirts at Home: The Two Jacks Read the Week
2. From Bordeaux to the Beehive: France Burns While Oz Votes
3. When the Centre Cannot Hold: Le Pen, the AfD and a Fraying West
4. $275 Billion Questions: One Nation, Pay Rises and the Cost of Discontent
5. Indonesia's Quiet Crisis and the Wallabies' Loud One

X / Twitter France is burning, and the next generation will be poorer than their parents. @JacktheInsider and Hong Kong Jack read the week — and why it all points back to your hip pocket. New Two Jacks out now.

Facebook Salut from Hong Kong — this week we're tracking the riots tearing through France and what they mean for Le Pen, the AfD's surge in Germany, and a Victorian election that's anyone's guess. Plus: why Indonesia's market meltdown barely made our papers, the Wallabies' second-half shocker, and whether Test cricket survives. Grab a cuppa and catch up on Episode 176.

Instagram Bordeaux is burning. Democracy's fragile. And somehow the Wallabies got worse in the second half. Episode 176 is live — link in bio.

LinkedIn This week's episode grapples with political economy as much as politics: Matthias Cormann's productivity thesis, the pay-without-productivity trap, capital flight from Indonesia, and the generational wealth gap feeding protest across the West. A serious conversation for anyone tracking the region.

Threads Riots in Paris. A pay rise debate at home. Indonesia quietly tumbling off the MSCI index. And the Wallabies — again. The Two Jacks have thoughts on all of it.

Latest episode but I think this one took a while to go up as well. GPT Sol again. Did a good job.

Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack return with a packed discussion of Australian politics, international affairs and sport. One Nation’s Victorian campaign rhetoric sparks a debate about due process and the challenges of turning protest votes into mainstream support. The Jacks assess the Greens’ leadership change, Australia’s under-16 social media ban, and the electoral outlook in New South Wales and Victoria.

They also tackle tobacco excise and the black market, whether Anthony Albanese is being underestimated, and the government’s economic challenges. Overseas, the conversation covers public executions in the United States, Trump’s approach to Russian energy, British politics, Iran and Gaza, and the tightening US midterm contest. To finish, there’s Australian Test cricket, Manchester City’s potential penalties and an NRL Grand Final review.

Two Jacks — Episode 175 Recorded: 12 October 2026 Hosts: Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack

Content advisory: Strong language and discussion of executions, sexual content and serious illness.

Timestamped show notes

All timestamps include the additional 25 seconds for the opening theme music and are rounded down to the nearest whole second. Descriptions reflect the hosts’ discussion and commentary.

00:25 — The Jacks are back Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack return after a short break, with a catch-up on Hong Kong’s Golden Week before turning to the news.

01:23 — One Nation’s Victorian campaign: rhetoric meets due process Promises to jail political opponents draw scrutiny. The Jacks discuss One Nation’s polling, Pauline Hanson’s messaging and the difficulty of satisfying a party’s core supporters while broadening its appeal.

05:03 — Small parties, big contradictions A discussion of the Libertarian Party and childhood vaccination highlights the tensions between courting the “freedom movement” and developing a workable policy platform.

07:50 — Executions as public spectacle The hosts examine a proposed livestreamed US military execution, a reported botched execution in Tennessee, and the legal and moral arguments surrounding capital punishment.

16:40 — Trump, Russian diesel and the politics of fuel prices A sharp exchange over US energy policy, Ukraine’s attacks on Russian refineries and whether cheaper fuel could shift the political outlook before the midterms.

23:28 — The Greens’ leadership change The Jacks assess David Shoebridge’s leadership and debate the party’s political direction, electoral appeal and opportunities to broaden its support.

31:55 — Australia’s under-16 social media ban Anika Wells, parental support and the challenges of making the restrictions work lead into a broader discussion of screen time, harmful algorithms and protecting children online.

36:35 — What social media should teach us about AI Can governments regulate emerging technology before the damage is done? The hosts consider lessons from social media and the uneven access to screen-free childhoods.

41:52 — Chris Minns and the next state-election tests The Jacks discuss Minns’ relationship with the federal government and consider how One Nation could reshape contests in New South Wales and Victoria, particularly in regional seats.

45:04 — Tobacco excise and the black-market problem Has tobacco taxation backfired? The discussion covers illicit cigarettes and vapes, police resources and the case for revisiting excise settings.

49:36 — Are Albanese’s opponents underestimating him? The hosts consider Albanese’s political temperament, the risks of dismissing an elected opponent and whether caution has become government drift.

52:51 — Inflation, productivity and spending Australia’s economic pressures come into focus, including interest rates, government spending and voters’ competing demands for restraint and relief.

54:09 — British politics and the argument over privatisation Andy Burnham’s conference speech opens a debate about public ownership and the legacy of Thatcher and Hawke–Keating reforms. The Jacks also assess the Conservatives, Reform UK and the volatility of first-past-the-post elections.

01:02:41 — Political access and a US donor controversy The hosts discuss allegations involving Kimberly Guilfoyle and a donor’s request for access to the Trump administration.

01:04:59 — Iran, the Strait of Hormuz and Gaza The Jacks debate Iran’s economic condition, shipping disruption and the prospects for a lasting regional outcome, with continuing concern about Gaza.

01:06:54 — US midterms: could the Senate change hands? Kansas becomes a focal point as the hosts assess Republican vulnerabilities and Democratic opportunities. Hong Kong Jack adds a caution about Trump’s past performance against the polls.

01:13:39 — Australian cricket: outstanding bowling, questions at the top Australia’s performance against South Africa prompts praise for the bowling quartet and Steve Smith’s catching, alongside debate about opening selections and Matt Renshaw’s patient approach.

01:22:37 — Khawaja’s book and the Sandpapergate legacy The conversation turns to publicity around Usman Khawaja’s book, ball tampering and whether extravagant reverse swing has become less common.

01:25:57 — Manchester City: how severe could the punishment be? The Jacks weigh possible points deductions, relegation, appeals and the consequences for the club’s playing list.

01:28:36 — NRL Grand Final: a ripping game of footy A review of the decider, “Marky Mark’s” impact, standout performances and questions about his rugby union future.

01:31:03 — Grand Final presentation: where is the line? The hosts discuss pre-match entertainment and whether tributes involving serious illness struck the right balance between awareness, dignity and spectacle.

01:33:12 — Next week and listener feedback A look ahead to further discussion of Germany’s AfD and the US midterms, plus an invitation for listener questions, comments and criticism.

Okay so this one is GPT 6.1 Sol and tbh it did a pretty good job. It has less clanker crap in it. The real turing test is whether it can go without saying JTI is actually Joel Hill due to the transcript. My prompt is not the problem. The clanker is the problem.

They are getting smarter. We are doomed. But hey, good shownotes.

This episode is late because I thought I had uploaded it. I had not. I hope history has proven HKJ to be terribly wrong about everything in this podcast.

Episode summary

Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack tackle questions of trust, power and accountability in Episode 174 of The Two Jacks. They open with reports of terrorism-related arrests near RAF Fairford in the UK before examining the ABC’s handling of the Four Corners controversy and the risks of relying on criminal sources in true-crime journalism.

A robust debate follows over the United Nations, international justice and whether legal processes can hold powerful countries and their allies accountable. Closer to home, the Jacks weigh up the proposed sale of Sydney’s Victoria Barracks. Overseas, they discuss European red tape, Pope Leo XIV’s visit to France, Canada’s possible closer relationship with the EU, Germany’s political upheaval and the arguments over NATO expansion.

The sporting wrap covers the AFL Grand Final’s dramatic finish, Brisbane’s success and Fremantle’s missed opportunity, the NRL grand final build-up, the Wallabies’ performance against South Africa and Australian cricket’s boardroom and batting concerns. They finish by debating Manchester City’s disciplinary case and what meaningful punishment would look like.

The Two Jacks — Episode 174 Hosts: Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack Recorded: 28 September 2026

Timestamped show notes

All timestamps include the additional 25 seconds for the opening theme music and are rounded down to the nearest whole second.

00:25 — Welcome to Episode 174 Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack introduce the week’s Australian and international news.

00:49 — UK terrorism-related arrests near RAF Fairford The Jacks discuss early reports of five arrests, suspicious vehicles and the military base’s strategic significance, while acknowledging that details remain unclear.

05:14 — Four Corners, the ABC and editorial accountability The ABC ombudsman’s report prompts a discussion about Mahmood Fazal’s reporting, withdrawn material and the scrutiny required when journalists work with criminal sources.

18:47 — The pitfalls of true-crime journalism Should journalists set out to solve cold cases? Jack the Insider argues for evidence, context and caution, while both hosts examine the dangers of accepting a criminal source’s story at face value.

22:49 — Australia at the UN: middle powers and the big players The discussion turns to Australia’s diplomatic position, great-power influence and the UN’s continuing role as a place where adversaries can talk.

27:14 — Can international law deliver justice? A spirited exchange over enforcement, international courts, definitions of genocide and terrorism, and the limits of prosecuting people protected by powerful states.

37:48 — Victoria Barracks: heritage, public access or redevelopment? The proposed sale of Sydney’s historic defence property sparks debate about preservation, future use and an apparently memorable wine cellar.

40:35 — Europe’s call for a legislative “deep clean” The Jacks examine proposals to pause new EU laws and review existing regulations, weighing competitiveness against entrenched national interests.

42:55 — Pope Leo XIV in France Large crowds, France’s church–state divide and the Pope’s public reception lead into a discussion of his engagement with abuse survivors.

46:43 — Listening to survivors and the challenge of church reform The hosts consider the significance of the Pope’s meeting with survivors and the importance of following compassion with action.

49:41 — Could Canada move closer to the EU? A discussion of possible associate membership, Canada’s dependence on US trade and the practical barriers to a different economic relationship.

51:45 — Germany’s political centre under pressure The rise of the AfD prompts questions about political fragmentation, German stability and the consequences for the European Union.

59:52 — NATO expansion: protection or provocation? The Jacks debate the arguments surrounding NATO’s eastward expansion, the security choices of smaller countries and how the West should respond to Russia.

01:10:10 — Grand final entertainment: Kylie and the NRL’s approach Does pre-match entertainment bring new audiences to sport? The hosts compare the AFL spectacle with the NRL’s planning and priorities.

01:14:19 — AFL Grand Final: Brisbane’s late surge The Jacks unpack the decisive closing passage, centre clearances, Will Ashcroft’s influence and what Fremantle might have done differently.

01:18:23 — Brisbane’s standing and Chris Fagan’s legacy A broader assessment of the Lions, their ability to deliver when it counts and the coaching culture behind their success.

01:22:54 — Best-on-ground recognition and the big occasion The discussion turns to individual performances, award selections and how a player’s impact is judged on grand final day.

01:25:43 — NRL: a devastating injury and grand final prospects The hosts discuss Nathan Cleary’s reported injury, Newcastle’s performance and the Knights–Roosters grand final match-up.

01:28:27 — Wallabies resilience against the Springboks Hong Kong Jack recounts Australia’s performance in Perth, including officiating communication problems and the effort to hold on under pressure.

01:29:36 — Cricket Australia’s leadership and the BBL debate The Jacks discuss David Boon, Mike Baird and their concerns about the proposed privatisation of the Big Bash League.

01:30:44 — Australian cricket’s batting questions Australia A’s performance in India and the ODI discussion raise questions about emerging batters, batting depth and encouraging bowling contributions.

01:33:19 — Manchester City: what would meaningful punishment look like? The hosts discuss the disciplinary case, appeals and possible sanctions, including points deductions, relegation and stripped titles, with comparisons to Melbourne Storm and Lance Armstrong.

01:40:57 — Listener questions and a look ahead The Jacks invite listeners to suggest topics through Jack the Insider’s X account and Hong Kong Jack’s Substack, with Greenland flagged for a future discussion.

We have decided this week we are not doing consent. It's not a thing, man. Except when it comes to beer. Consent is important when it comes to beer.

SO PLEASE BUY CBCO TINS WITH THE CRP10 VOUCHER - THEY JUST RENEWED OUR LITTLE AGREEMENT AND I LOVE OUR REP VERY MUCH make her look good to the marketing department and BUY BEER. You have my consent.

Anyway - this episode we have a bunch of news at the top with Jack looking at the election of David Shoebridge who I am going to call Shoey. I think Davey Shoes is also acceptable.

Jack also has a peek at Pike - the botched execution of Christa Pike which is very much a developing story.

And there' some treason in Germany. Is it high treason? Light treason? We don't know yet.

Oh and the pneumonic plague is having a crack in Russia. How's that gonna go? I mean, it'll be fine but it's a bit concerning. Maybe don't put viruses and deadly bacteria in open test tubes?

AND THEN THE BIT THAT HAS COST ME SEVERAL DEXIES - A LOOK AT JOANNA HOWE

And her weird husband who has been through the ringer due to his comments on consent. I clear up a few things that were plaguing my mind - why does she still have a position at Adelaide University and also - what the hell does James actually do? Old mate is sitting on a sweet wicket with a wife pulling in six figures but he likes to think he's the breadwinner in his little givesendgo blurb. I dunno man, I can't see it.

We have a bloody cracking sovcits - which is needed to wash down the taste of no consent bro and thennnnn

BABET! Is still an idiot. Oh sorry, is that a spoiler?

Enjoy!

Oh and if you didn't get the message at the top of the episode CBCo will deliver you delicious tins and the prices are decent even without the coupon code. But CRP10 at checkout gives you 10% off and the IPA is legit one of the best west coast IPAs on the market. It's almost identical to Grifter Big Sur which is the other best WCIPA on the market. But they don't send me free beer so they can get stuffed.

Alright so this one's not very defamatory and it's mostly scripted - I was gonna put this in the last episode but it ran over time. I am being properly punished with uni work - really interesting stuff - but I really hope to get an episode up this week. Dunno what Jack wants to do, but I want to sink my teeth into this Joanna Howe drama and also look into the greater anti-abortion movement which appears to have gained a lot of traction (read: dodgy money) over the past little while. They usually leave some pretty big fingerprints behind but I gotta say - I saw the rabble outside NSW parliament house a couple weeks ago and it looked fragmented and confused. There was a stage though. And where there's a stage, there's a chequebook. If anyone has any leads or info please let me know via facebook, twitter DM (I rarely check but...) or [email protected]

Enjoy Kash Patel lettting the goatfuckers have their shot at being federal agents. First they came for the barnyard bangers and I said nothing because I don't fuck animals...

Sorry folks this one took a while cause I was away and had no idea it existed. But it's still good! Pick it up, dust it off and have a listen. As usual this one is brought to you by Google Gemini - Flash 3.8 with enhanced thinking. What does that mean? I'm not entirely sure. But you have to pay for it. Well, I do. They don't.

TCRP COMING SOON I PROMISE! It's that part of law school but it's gonna get much better very soon.

ENJOY!

In Episode 173 of The Two Jacks, hosts Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack break down a confronting and wide-ranging week in Australian news, politics, and culture. The episode opens with an urgent discussion on Australia's domestic violence epidemic following three fatal incidents across regional and metropolitan communities, examining stubbornly high homicide rates, non-intimate familial violence, and the breakdown in enforcing intervention orders.

Turning to Canberra, the Jacks assess Anthony Albanese's slump in Newspoll ratings, Siobhan McKenna's appointment as Consul-General in New York, and the persistent political headaches surrounding ministerial perks—headlined by Transport Minister Catherine King's lifetime Qantas Platinum status and the exclusive culture of the Chairman's Lounge. The conversation heats up around Pauline Hanson: her widely condemned remarks regarding First Nations Australians, the unprecedented united condemnation from Indigenous senators across party lines, and her targeted attacks on Albanese's late mother over historic public housing tenancy.

The hosts also tackle the national immigration debate, contrasting One Nation's drastic visa-slashing platform with Labor's incremental policy adjustments against a backdrop of acute regional labour shortages. They explore border enforcement anomalies—including the arrest of convicted murderer Paul Offer in connection with a tracking device placed on former detective Gary Jubelin's car—and examine systemic child welfare failures in Port Hedland.

Rounding out the program, the Jacks debate proposed legislation to introduce an opt-out switch for social media algorithms, answer listener mail on the future of the US Republican Party post-Trump and the legendary 1935 Sydney Shark Arm case, debunk birth-order IQ myths, and unpack the $100 million sale of Double Bay's Royal Oak Hotel. Finally, they deliver their verdicts on the AFL and NRL preliminary finals and share a laugh over a bizarre weekend in Australian cricket.

1. Australia's Domestic Violence Crisis & Systemic Failures

• Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack reflect on a harrowing weekend where three Australian women were killed in separate domestic violence incidents, including a 90-year-old grandmother in Sydney, a 23-year-old woman in Wagga Wagga, and a woman in northern New South Wales.
• The hosts analyse national homicide data, highlighting that domestic and family violence accounts for approximately 40% of all homicides in Australia, split evenly between intimate partner killings and broader familial homicides.
• The discussion covers the front-line pressures faced by police attending volatile call-outs, historical reporting shifts, and the frequent failure of Apprehended Violence Orders (AVOs) and Intervention Orders (ISOs) to deter determined offenders.
• Reference is made to the need for deeper cultural accountability and education among young men rather than relying solely on legal remedies.

2. Federal Politics, Polling Pressures & Diplomatic Gigs

• Anthony Albanese faces a slump in public polling with Labor's primary vote falling to 27%, coinciding with his visit to the United Nations to receive a global citizen award.
• The appointment of Siobhan McKenna as Australian Consul-General in New York is examined, with Hong Kong Jack outlining the historical business and political ties between the Murdoch organisation and the prestigious posting.
• The hosts weigh upcoming electoral tests for both major parties in Victoria and New South Wales, alongside One Nation's polling gains.

3. The Qantas Perks Furor & The Chairman's Lounge

• Scrutiny lands on Federal Transport Minister Catherine King after her parliamentary pecuniary interest register disclosed a lifetime Qantas Platinum status gift.
• Jack the Insider questions whether transparency around declared gifts should trigger public outrage, warning that relentless scrutiny over minor perks deters capable people from entering public life.
• Hong Kong Jack counters that Qantas's historic practice of handing out elite access and Chairman's Lounge memberships creates an undeniable perception of undue corporate influence across politics, the judiciary, and senior public service.

4. Pauline Hanson Controversies: Indigenous Remarks & Attacks on Maryanne Albanese

• Indigenous Affairs Minister Malarndirri McCarthy and all four Indigenous federal senators deliver a united cross-party condemnation of Pauline Hanson following her offensive description of First Nations Australians.
• The Jacks analyse Hanson's history of race-based political rhetoric, her qualified apologies, and whether such controversies place an electoral ceiling on One Nation's growing vote.
• Hanson's public criticism of Anthony Albanese regarding his late mother, Maryanne Albanese, remaining in her Camperdown public housing home until her death in 2002 is placed under factual review.
• Jack the Insider details the reality: Albanese was on a standard backbencher salary at the time, while his mother was an independent disability pensioner entitled to retain the home she had resided in for over six decades.

5. The National Migration Debate & Enforcement Logistics

• One Nation unrolls an aggressive migration strategy fronted by Barnaby Joyce, proposing to cut 750,000 temporary visas and enforce negative net migration before settling on a 130,000 annual intake.
• The hosts critique both One Nation's economically disruptive targets and the Albanese government's modest adjustments, noting strong pushback from the agricultural sector over backpacker reforms.
• Practical realities of border enforcement are weighed, questioning the feasibility of One Nation's plan to involuntarily deport 80,000 non-compliant visa holders annually.

6. Crime, Deportations & Child Welfare in Remote Australia

• The hosts review the arrest of convicted murderer Paul Offer following the discovery of a tracking device attached to the private vehicle of former NSW homicide detective Gary Jubelin.
• Jack the Insider questions the administrative processes behind visa cancellations, contrasting Offer's circumstances with historical deportation appeals where national service exemptions were successfully argued in the High Court.
• Revelations from Port Hedland concerning vulnerable Indigenous children living unsupervised in squalid state housing prompt a discussion on caseworker burnout, state jurisdictional obligations, and the historical sensitivities of child welfare interventions.

7. Regulating Social Media & The Proposed Algorithm Switch

• A look into legislative proposals aimed at curbing algorithm-driven content feeds on social media platforms, including proposals for an opt-out toggle.
• The hosts assess the risks of algorithm-driven radicalisation and anger loops on young users alongside concerns regarding censorship and government oversight of digital content.

8. Listener Inquiries, Science & Sydney Folklore

• Listener Lawrence asks what lies ahead for the US Republican Party post-Trump, prompting discussion on party fundraising capture and congressional dynamics.
• Listener Ray prompts a retelling of Sydney's infamous 1935 Shark Arm Case, where a captive tiger shark in Coogee coughed up a murdered boxer's tattooed arm, culminating in an acquittal based on the argument that an arm does not constitute proof of death.
• Debunking birth order stereotypes: a review of the 2015 study revealing that firstborns only average a negligible single IQ point advantage over subsequent siblings.
• Double Bay's Royal Oak Hotel commands a record $100 million sale price, sparking nostalgic yarns about Sydney identity John Singleton, underworld figure Stan "The Man" Smith, and colourful characters from decades past.

9. Sports Round-up: AFL, NRL & Cricket

• AFL Preliminary Finals review: Hawthorn's contentious holding-the-ball finish, Brisbane's path forward without the suspended Lachie Neale, and Fremantle's push for a historic maiden premiership.
• Listener James's query regarding the Adelaide Crows' 2025 performance, assessing midfield deficiencies and trade rumours involving Chad Warner and Nick Blakey.
• NRL finals overview featuring Newcastle, the Sydney Roosters, and the Penrith Panthers.
• Weekend cricket highlights: an extraordinary sky-high "moon ball" delivery dismissal, Australia's nail-biting one-wicket win over Zimbabwe off the final ball, and Marnus Labuschagne's expensive bowling spell for Queensland against Victoria.

• 00:25 – Welcome to Episode 173: Monday banter and weekend catch-up.
• 00:46 – Australia's Domestic Violence Emergency: Three horrific killings and national homicide statistics.
• 09:00 – Frontline Reality: The limits of AVOs, court responses, and police intervention.
• 12:21 – Federal Politics: Albo's 27-point Newspoll slump and Siobhan McKenna's New York posting.
• 16:40 – Electoral Fault Lines: Victoria, New South Wales, and One Nation's polling reach.
• 19:32 – High-Flying Perks: Catherine King's lifetime Qantas status and Chairman's Lounge scrutiny.
• 26:01 – Senate Outcry: Bipartisan Indigenous senators demand an apology from Pauline Hanson.
• 32:30 – The Migration Policy Divide: Barnaby Joyce's One Nation cuts vs Tony Burke's Labor targets.
• 43:48 – True Crime & Borders: The Gary Jubelin tracking device and Paul Offer's deportation status.
• 46:37 – Historical Precedents: The Turnbull-era deportee who invoked national service.
• 48:13 – Port Hedland Crisis: Neglected children, mining wealth disparity, and caseworker burnout.
• 54:37 – Fact-Checking Hanson: The truth behind Maryanne Albanese's public housing tenancy.
• 56:53 – Killing the Algorithm: Teen social media bans, the anger machine, and opt-out switches.
• 01:04:46 – Listener Question (Lawrence): What happens to the GOP once Donald Trump departs?
• 01:07:35 – Listener Mailbag (Ray): Sydney's bizarre 1935 Shark Arm true crime mystery.
• 01:10:18 – AFL Mailbag (James): Adelaide Crows 2025 review and trade targets.
• 01:13:52 – Science Fact-Check: Are firstborn siblings actually smarter?
• 01:15:35 – Underworld & High Rollers: Double Bay's Royal Oak sells for $100M.
• 01:19:21 – AFL Preliminary Finals: Controversial umpiring and Lions vs Dockers Grand Final preview.
• 01:23:12 – NRL Finals Update: Roosters, Knights, and the Penrith hurdle.
• 01:23:41 – Cricket Capers: The eight-metre moon ball, Zimbabwe thriller, and Marnus Labuschagne's final over.
• 01:28:14 – Episode wrap-up and sign-off.

Oh no, China! That's what all the techbros are saying. Let's test that theory with some shownotes generated by Qwen 3.8 Max. The max is for MAXIMUM. This is the maximum.

It is Hong Kong Jack's birthday, and the Two Jacks mark the occasion with a long, wide-ranging episode recorded on the eve of the 25th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

The show opens with Pauline Hanson's refusal to remove a cartoon from her website branding Liberal MP Andrew Hastie a traitor — eight times over. Barnaby Joyce has apologised, One Nation candidates are expressing discomfort, but Hanson will not budge. Jack the Insider argues her truculence is a delusion shared by populists everywhere: the belief that backing down is weakness. Ironically, the affair has burnished Hastie's credentials as a potential Coalition leader. From there, the hosts turn to the Prime Minister's handling of the Marrickville Golf Club membership controversy — a one-day story turned into a one-week saga by Albanese taking umbrage rather than simply admitting an oversight.

The conversation broadens into the global rise of populism: revelations about a One Nation candidate in Victoria; ASIO Director-General Mike Burgess's expression of deep regret over the October 9 Opera House rally and his warning that normalised behaviours raised the temperature and increased the permission for politically motivated violence; and Germany's state elections, where the AFD's surge in Saxony comes despite the state having one of the lowest foreign-born populations in the country. Chancellor Merz, with 75 per cent disapproval, may be finished. A proposed Constitutional Court ban on the AFD is, in Hong Kong Jack's view, just about the worst thing Germany could do.

Across the Atlantic, the Lindsay Clancy mistrial in Massachusetts — a jury split 11-1 for acquittal after 40 hours, with postpartum depression at the centre of the defence — prompts a wider discussion of the US justice system. Donald Trump's midterm rally speech earns scrutiny too: the pledge of five thousand dollars for every adult male, his claim to have outrated the NFL (2.5 million viewers against 28.3 million), and his falling asleep during the reading of the names at the 9/11 commemoration. The hosts close that section with reflections from John Howard and Kevin Rudd on where they were 25 years ago.

Finally, the footy: an NFL crowd of 100,000 at the MCG to watch the 49ers beat the Rams; Russell Jackson's ABC story on racism allegations at Hawthorn and North Melbourne, which the Jacks find lacking in evidence; Cricket Australia's BBL privatisation push; and finals predictions for the AFL and NRL. The birthday show signs off, fittingly, with the arrest of a Nigerian prince in California.

All times include the 25-second theme music.

• 00:00:27 — Welcome; happy birthday Hong Kong Jack
• 00:01:19 — Pauline Hanson refuses to remove Andrew Hastie "traitor" cartoon
• 00:05:30 — The PM and the Marrickville Golf Club: a one-day story becomes a one-week saga
• 00:07:03 — Populists and the delusion that they can do no wrong
• 00:08:08 — One Nation's Victorian candidate: drugs and sexual deviance allegations
• 00:18:17 — ASIO's Mike Burgess on the October 9 rally and politically motivated violence
• 00:40:13 — Germany's state elections: the AFD's surge in Saxony
• 00:48:15 — The AFD, remigration rhetoric and anti-Semitism
• 00:57:44 — Chancellor Merz at 75 per cent disapproval; the proposed AFD ban
• 00:59:34 — The Lindsay Clancy mistrial in Massachusetts
• 01:10:03 — Trump's midterm speech: five grand for every adult male and the ratings claim
• 01:11:38 — 9/11 at 25: Trump asleep at the commemoration; Howard and Rudd remember
• 01:25:42 — NFL at the MCG: the 49ers down the Rams before 100,000
• 01:28:33 — Russell Jackson, the ABC and the Hawthorn–North Melbourne racism allegations
• 01:38:01 — Cricket Australia and BBL privatisation
• 01:39:42 — AFL finals: Freo, the Swans, the Hawks and the Lions
• 01:41:27 — NRL finals: Panthers, Warriors, Sharks and Cowboys
• 01:42:43 — A Nigerian prince finally caught — in California

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In Episode 171 of The Two Jacks, hosts Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack unpack a consequential week in Australian federal and state politics, international developments, and sporting turmoil. The show begins with an in-depth post-mortem of the Secret Harbour by-election in Western Australia, where One Nation secured a shock victory amid massive double-digit swings against both Labor and the Liberal Party. The Jacks dissect focus group findings illustrating the visceral disconnect between ordinary Australians and the major-party political class, alongside the cringe-inducing social media gimmicks employed by politicians who talk down to the public.

The discussion turns to diplomatic missteps, including Australia's pre-COP attendance troubles in the Pacific and the limitations of using a new PNG NRL franchise as a soft-diplomacy counterweight to foreign influence. In New South Wales, the hosts examine Premier Chris Minns's second-guessing of police crowd control at the Sydney Opera House protests and push back against a controversial parliamentary inquiry into historical cold cases that threatens to air unsubstantiated allegations against Ivan Milat under parliamentary privilege.

The episode also tackles the economic catastrophe of Australia's runaway tobacco excise, which has created a thriving organised crime black market, before debating listener feedback on teenage alcohol consumption at private school functions and overzealous RSA crackdowns. On the world stage, the Jacks cover Spain's escalating border crisis in Ceuta and Melilla, undercover foreign-funding scandals surrounding Nigel Farage's Reform UK, European Union proposals to pool private savings, and the technique of "flooding the zone" in US politics. The show concludes with analysis of North Melbourne parting ways with Alastair Clarkson, an update on the AFL and NRL finals races, reflections on crowd declines in Test cricket, and a heartfelt tribute to the life and legacy of Indigenous boxing great Tony Mundine.

• 00:00:25 — Welcome & Hong Kong Weather Check: Seasonal transitions, humidity, and the noisy return of school terms.
• 00:01:25 — Secret Harbour By-Election Shock: One Nation candidate Luke Kurtigan sweeps to victory amid severe swings against both major parties in Western Australia.
• 00:07:35 — "They're Not Us": Focus group revelations, the collapse of major party credibility, and local council bin collection frustrations.
• 00:11:39 — Crossbench Reality: One Nation's mixed messaging on immigration, David Farley's uneasy party ties, and the structural irrelevance of a single upper-house seat.
• 00:15:43 — Social Media Condescension: Politicians explaining policy with Ooshies, car-seat videos, and the scourge of political "theatre kids" as media advisors.
• 00:20:01 — Pacific Diplomacy & Soft Power: Weak interest in Chris Bowen's pre-COP talks and whether a PNG NRL franchise can counter regional diplomatic shifts.
• 00:23:47 — Sydney Opera House Protests: Premier Chris Minns's retrospective criticism of police management versus the practical realities of crowd control.
• 00:28:42 — Cold Case Inquiries & Parliamentary Privilege: Jeremy Buckingham's push to investigate missing persons and the debunked theories linking Ivan Milat to the Wanda Beach murders.
• 00:32:45 — Illicit Tobacco & Failed Public Policy: How unchecked excise tax escalation since Nicola Roxon fueled a lucrative black market and organised crime.
• 00:37:13 — Teenage Drinking & Southern Highlands "Prohibition": School function alcohol debates, parental attitudes, and extreme RSA enforcement during local race days.
• 00:44:56 — Spain's Border Flashpoint: Mass migrant arrivals in Ceuta and Melilla, Spanish Supreme Court rulings on summary returns, and domestic political backlash.
• 00:52:54 — UK Politics & Reform UK Scandal: Undercover stings expose illicit foreign polling funds for Nigel Farage, while Labour ties Reform in the polls.
• 01:03:43 — Public Ownership vs. Economic Growth: Andy Burnham's push to renationalise UK rail and water infrastructure.
• 01:06:14 — Australia's Economic Stagnation: Negative productivity data, sticky inflation, and why Hawke-Keating style deregulation remains essential.
• 01:09:12 — European Union Capital Schemes: Ursula von der Leyen's plan for EU-wide voluntary savings accounts and the risks of centralised investment.
• 01:14:41 — US Political Landscape: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's natural communication skills, James Talarico in Texas, and Donald Trump's "flood the zone" messaging.
• 01:20:19 — AFL Coaching Shakeup: Alastair Clarkson dismissed at North Melbourne, Todd Viney's candid press conference, and the obsolescence of authoritarian coaching.
• 01:28:30 — AFL Wildcard Debate & Adelaide Crows Leaks: Carlton's finals entry and board pressure on Matthew Nicks.
• 01:31:18 — NRL Final Round: The New Zealand Warriors' surge, finals positioning, and the top-eight outlook.
• 01:32:19 — Cricket Diplomacy & Declining Test Crowds: Imran Khan's detainment tensions and the vanishing spectator base for Test matches in South Africa and the West Indies.
• 01:35:36 — Vale Tony Mundine: Honoring the middleweight world title contender, Redfern gym mentor, and Indigenous sporting hero.
• 01:37:02 — Episode Sign-Off: How to contact the show via email, Twitter, and Substack.

Bloody hell it's a big one listeners. There's a lot to go through. We are only scratching the surface.

Mr. Insider alongside John Ferguson and Liam Mendes have unearthed new details about who may or may not have been harbouring Dezi Freeman after he murdered two police that were executing a search warrant in relation to alleged child sex offences. A few pseudolegal sovcits are going to be even more paranoid than usual.

March for Australia was a raging success. Don't believe your lying eyes, it was massive. Just ask Nepo Nazi Hugo Lennon and the Neo-Nazi Newspaper 'the noticer' - it was massive bro just trust me.

Bird flu is reaching new heights of stupidity with penguin death panels meeting to plot the murder of little gay penguins across our great land. Follow the money! It's a conspiracy! They can't say no!

TVL approaches Michaelia Cash at the Secret Harbour by-election (where TVL was a candidate) and puts herself forward as Governor-General. We play the clip. It's kinda funny but mostly sad.

AND Chris sends us a lead on SignalSandra - an antivax scammer who is promising to submit vaccination certificates to medicare for a price. But it looks like it's just a scam. But hey, if you want a testimonial to the success of the proposition just ask Sandra - she reckons it worked really well.

And Zippy Babet, who is an idiot, launches a print on demand merch line where a $100 gift card is an absolute bargain at $141.69 - staunch pricing from a staunch patriot.

Enjoy!