In what is arguably the best television show ever written, Aaron Sorkin captured the spirit of a White House and a President. The show was The West Wing. The President was Jed Bartlett. The phrase that was repeated over seven seasons was “What’s Next?”. Today, many of us are asking the same thing.

Hello everyone, and welcome to episode 160 of the Resilient Journey podcast, presented by the Resilience Think Tank.

This is an episode that every risk management, business continuity and crisis management professional needs to hear as we welcome long-term political advisor and crisis management expert John Ashford back to the podcast. John and Mark talk about the pending change in Washington with Republican control of the Oval Office and both houses of Congress. John offers an intentionally balanced view of what’s next – as it relates to tariffs, deregulation, infrastructure and the new administration’s impact on Ukraine and all of Europe.

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