In this episode of the Project Narrative Podcast, Jim Phelan and Marco Caracciolo discuss Charles Yu’s 2020 short story, “Systems,” which was commissioned by the New York Times for the collection, The Decameron Project: 29 New Stories from the Pandemic. Marco Caracciolo is an Associate Professor of English and Literary Theory at Ghent University in Belgium, and he currently serves as the second Vice President at the International Society for the Study of Narrative. Caracciolo is the author of numerous books, including The Experientiality of Narrative: An Enactivist Approach, Strange Narrators in Contemporary Fiction: Explorations in Readers’ Engagement with Characters, A Passion for Specificity: Confronting Inner Experience in Literature and Science (co-authored with Russell Hurlburt), With Bodies: Narrative Theory and Embodied Cognition (co-authored with Karin Kukkonen), and Narrating the Mesh: Form and Story in the Anthropocene.