In this the second part of Jack's interview with Ray Mooney, Ray speaks of the hell of Pentridge's H Division where prison officers routinely bashed inmates. Ray speaks of the Jenkinson inquiry parliamentary inquiry which delivered no justice but ended the careers of some especially sadistic prison officers but the hell in H Division continued.

Ray found himself in H Division. He was beaten regularly. He pledged that he would not break rocks - the work detail in H Division. Despite the beatings, he never did. Ray and Jack take the discussion to other prisons around the country, including the notorious HM Grafton.

Why were these places so violent? What did officialdom expect would happen to the prisoners subject to this brutality?

The interview concludes on a wide ranging discussion on prison reform and crime prevention.  

To find Ray's work check him out at https://raymooney.com/ where he has just about written more books than I've read and charges next to nothing for them.

Link to buy the books is here: https://www.amazon.com.au/s?k=%22ray+mooney%22&i=digital-text&crid=33E6XF5AE1JHN&sprefix=ray+mooney+%2Cdigital-text%2C234&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

For more from Ray and VERY good friend of the podcast Emily Webb - check out her interview with Ray here - https://open.spotify.com/episode/5IvI5l4vfoRstIMBQQGueM

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