Philip welcome Norman Wirzba, back to The Deep Dive for his third appearance. He’s back to discuss his latest book Love’s Braided Dance. In their conversation, they discuss how love factors into our ability to solve pressing problems and build richer

The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.

Philip’s Drop: Vichy France:

Norman’s Drop:

Special Guest: Norman Wirzba.