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In this episode, James Jefferies and Jane Gulliford Lowes engage in a lively discussion with author Luke Turner about the complexities of Bomber Command's history, model-making, the legacy of the Dambusters film, his fascination with 158 Squadron, and the personal stories of individuals like Bertram Warr. They explore themes of masculinity, memory, and the importance of memorials, while also addressing the overshadowing of lesser-known squadrons and operations. The conversation highlights the need for a nuanced understanding of war narratives and the human experiences behind them.

Luke  Turner is a writer and editor, the author of Out of the Woods, and the fabulous Men at War

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