In this episode Toby sits down with longtime friend and musician Karina Rykman! They chat about graduating NYU with honors, growing up in Manhattan, her parents, different genres, discovering jam bands, Rocks Off, NY changing, punk ethos, selling out shows, not beating yourself up, becoming a singer, first US headlining tour, not putting yourself in a box, baths, hip hop, being tattoo free and filling in on Late Night with Seth Meyers.

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