In this episode Toby sits down with longtime friend and band member Todd Friend! They chat about his shoulder and neck problems, having to put the drums on hold, slowly getting back into drumming, giving drum lessons, being a drum tech, doing something with music every day, his mom and health issues, St. Mary's County, meeting the Morses, Outcrowd, Thrappin Crew, NYC, H2O, The Simpsons, substitute teaching, the band doing things outside of H2O, therapy, his love for bananas, music knowledge, recounting tours and past albums recorded, getting into the stagehand business and what he's up to now.

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