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Stacie and Philip react to the impactful third episode of Breath of Fire. They look at the connection between money and abuse and discuss the power structure and culture of denial within 3HO and compare them to what occurred with Guru Jagat and the RA MA Institute.

 They examine how decades of abuse in 3HO were facilitated and explain that Yogi Bhajan grew his empire by using the skill and resources of his students to further his own gains --- a philosophy he called "Other People's Money" and "Other People's Intelligence. The inability of Guru Jagat to do the same leads Philip and Stacie to categorize her and RA MA as a type of "junior" version of 3HO.

More from Philip Deslippe and Stacie Stukin:

• Rishi Knots: Born and raised in 3HO Sikh Dharma Kundalini Yoga
• "3HO's Boarding Schools Were A Living Hell" for Baaz News (2024): 
• "How 'Siri Singh Sahib' Yogi Bhajan Created An Empire" for Baaz News (2022): 
• "Yogi Bhajan, yoga guru and founder of 3HO, ‘more likely than not’ sexually abused followers, says report" for Religion News Service (2020): 

Stacie Stukin:

• "Yogi Bhajan Turned an L.A. Yoga Studio into a Juggernaut, and Left Two Generations of Followers Reeling from Alleged Abuse" for Los Angeles Magazine (2020): 

Philip Deslippe:

• "From Maharaj to Mahan Tantric: The Construction of Yogi Bhajan's Kundalini Yoga" for Sikh Formations (2012): 
• Yogic Studies Course on Sikhism and Yoga with Jvala Singh
• Commissioned report from An Olive Branch 2020

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