8-30-2020: This episode has been fully reproduced. Same content, better quality.

A conversation with fellow MMT activists Geoff Ginter and Ryan Mathis in our car ride up to the Third Annual International MMT Conference in Long Island, New York. We are three MMT activists (smart about MMT but not formally educated) discussing how we got into MMT and our hopes for the conference.

Bonus: Christian Reilly is the co-host of MMT Podcast and a full-time musical comedian. At the very end of this episode, you will hear his new MMT song, Spending In The World As We Know It.

Two #LearnMMT snippets from this episode:

• No. The US doesn't borrow the US dollar from China.
• A first year law student explains why taxes logically can't fund spending.