In this conversation, Chris Jobman discusses the process of teaching a dog to stop and sit in the water using a whistle. He explains the steps involved in water forcing and how to train the dog to tread water. He also covers the concept of swim by, which involves teaching the dog to swim back and forth across a pond. Chris emphasizes the importance of building a solid foundation and following a step-by-step process in dog training. He also highlights the challenges faced by amateurs in finding suitable training grounds for water work. In this conversation, Chris Jobman and Elliott discuss various topics related to dog training. They cover the importance of teaching dogs to handle water, the concept of running singles in training, and the challenge of dogs sticking to the last bird. They also talk about the differences between the Grand and Master National events, the mindset of judges in each event, and how to handle dogs that go into hop mode near the finish of a blind. Overall, the conversation provides valuable insights into dog training techniques and the challenges faced by trainers.