Creator/Executive Producer Stu Zicherman and Executive Producer Nina Jacobson join Mase & Sue to talk about the first season of their F/X anthology series AMERICAN SPORTS STORY:AARON HERNANDEZ which focuses on the rise and fall of the polarizing former NFL player. They discuss the inspiration for tackling this project, where they found their source material, the culture of college and pro football that overlooked his behavior, the pressure of his secret life, the challenge of writing dialogue for real characters and hiring a former NFL player to capture the authenticity. Also, casting actors who check all the boxes, how you become a showrunner, the complex CTE issue, the gladiator aspect, and the million-dollar question – what will it take to make football safe? Plus, the Mets save Sue from having a heart attack, Mase’s media day with the Lakers, coffee talk, the October 4th premiere of JOKER: FOLIE  Á DEUX, famous movie psychopaths, and Mase and Sue’s take on the HBO Max series THE PENGUIN.