This episode of Knowing Animals comes to you from the US where I am attending the Fellow Travellers conference organised by today's guest, Lori Gruen, and the Animals & Society Institute.

In today's episode I speak to philosopher Prof. Lori Gruen about her book Entangled Empathy: An Alternative Ethic for Our Relationships with Animals which was published by Lantern in 2015.

This episode is brought to you by the nice people at AASA. AASA is Australia's Animal Studies Association. Learn more about AASA here: https://www.facebook.com/AASA-Australasian-Animal-Studies-Association-480316142116752/?fref=ts.

Please forgive the sound. The equipment isn't working so well in the US.