He’s on the board of Tesla and SpaceX, but Kimbal Musk’s current tech entrepreneurship is focused on food and farming, not transportation. Musk (who is Elon Musk’s brother) is the co-founder and executive chairman of three companies that approach food and agriculture from different angles: Square Roots, a vertical farming company that grows hydroponic herbs in shipping containers, the Kitchen Restaurant Group, which operates farm-to-table restaurants, and Big Green, a non-profit that builds learning gardens in classrooms. Host Lisa Elaine Held talks to him about his approach to local food systems, the role of technology in farming, how indoor growing systems might impact the environment and food safety, and more.

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