This conversation with esteemed journalist Paul Thacker explores the evidence hierarchy and the conflicting views on the effectiveness of masks. It discusses the Cochrane Collaborative's reviews on masks, which found insufficient high-quality evidence to support their effectiveness The conversation concludes with a reflection on the need for critical thinking and questioning in the face of political alignment.

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Chapters:

00:00 Introduction: Evidence Hierarchy and Conflicting Views on Masks

00:30 Cochrane Collaborative's Reviews on Masks

06:23 The Limitations of Medicine and Public Health

10:36 The Psychological Impact of Masks

19:22 The Corrupted Scientific Agency

23:21 Lack of Trust in the CDC

24:48 Conflicts of Interest in Mask Research

26:53 Political Motivations

36:08 Lack of RCTs on Masks

42:39 Protecting Reputations

49:46 Teaching People Masks Work

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