In this episode Toby sits down with Pain Of Truth vocalist Michael Smith! They chat the Long Island scene, Hangman, Pain Of Truth, quitting a good job to tour, having features on the record, Daze Records, getting Freddy on the record, what hardcore is, his brothers, sobriety, hardcore connecting everyone in different places, the old and the new generation, Seinfeld, hip hop, and more! https://www.instagram.com/michaelbriansmith

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