<p>Andy and Matt discuss what HOP means to them inside and outside of work. Also, do we feel it is really worth all the extra effort and energy?  (spoiler alert - yes)</p>

Andy and Matt discuss what HOP means to them inside and outside of work. Also, do we feel it is really worth all the extra effort and energy? (spoiler alert - yes)

Episode 39 - Do we feel the extra effort is worth it?

<p>A lighthearted podcast about the practical use of HOP concepts in our personal and work worlds.</p>

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A lighthearted podcast about the practical use of HOP concepts in our personal and work worlds.

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