Saturday night saw the 2020 MLS Cup takes place in Columbus, as the Crew saw off the challenge of Seattle Sounders. AFTN did our first live watchalong on YouTube and we bring you that now in podcast form for your aural pleasure.

But don't worry, this episode isn't just us talking about the match. In fact, far from it! We do chat about the main action as it takes place but this episode sees Michael McColl, Steve Pandher, Zachary Adam Meisenheimer, Navid Mashinchi, and Will Silver delve into a number of topics and issues affecting Vancouver Whitecaps and Major League Soccer as a whole.

Just how far behind the top of the league are the Whitecaps? Why can't they recruit and perform better than Columbus? Can they turn things around or will they simply get left behind? And where would the Whitecaps actually have a player ranked in the all time list of MLS players?

Plus we talk MLS expansion in Austin and Sacramento, hear from Austin FC head coach Josh Wolff and Sporting Director Claudio Reyna about building their squad and Tuesday's expansion draft, the rumours of MLS and Liga MX merging, how far MLS has come in its 25 years, the top 25 players of all time, Commissioner Don Garber's State of the League address, what lies in store for next season, and much much more, including hearing a little bit from both head coaches after the MLS Cup itself.

There's no timestamps or breakdown for this episode as the chat was fluid and we want you to enjoy it all as it played out.