Matt and guest co-host Jeff Paterson discuss Patrik Allvin's explosive comments. Anyone could be traded; Elias Pettersson has to get more mature, better prepared and face the music when things don't go well; the stars are underperforming; Brock Boeser has more to give; and he may need to make a trade to shake things up. The guys also discuss a push-to-shove decision on J.T. Miller or Pettersson, Boeser's future, management's role in this muddling season, and the final calendar game of 2024 in Calgary.

Patrick Johnston stops by to say Allvin finally specified the issues with Pettersson as a last resort to try and reach the struggling star. He discusses Miller carrying more of the media load than Pettersson during team/individual struggles and whether that is wearing thin; Boeser's future and throws us a curveball in terms of whom he thinks the Canucks would choose in a Miller or Pettersson trade.

John Shannon joins and says management is frustrated that the lessons from last spring's postseason run have not been learned. He says this is its way of pushing Pettersson and that he's not convinced management wants to move him. He takes us all the way back to the start of Canucks history to tell us if the franchise is cursed; muses about how long management will put up with the nonsense, and explains why the Winter Classic moved from New Year's Day to New Year's Eve.

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John Shannon joins and says management is frustrated that the lessons from last spring's postseason run have not been learned. He says this is its way of pushing Pettersson and that he's not convinced management wants to move him. He takes us all the way back to the start of Canucks history to tell us if the franchise is cursed; muses about how long management will put up with the nonsense, and explains why the Winter Classic moved from New Year's Day to New Year's Eve.

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Patrick Johnston stops by to say Allvin finally specified the issues with Pettersson as a last resort to try and reach the struggling star. He discusses Miller carrying more of the media load than Pettersson during team/individual struggles and whether that is wearing thin; Boeser's future and throws us a curveball in terms of whom he thinks the Canucks would choose in a Miller or Pettersson trade.

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Matt and guest co-host Jeff Paterson discuss the Canucks losing Elias Pettersson and Quinn Hughes to injury and the collapse vs Seattle. Is this a cursed season? They talk about the path forward without their stars; the awful home record; how Thatcher Demko and J.T. Miller need to step up with all the injuries; the letter assignments to Conor Garland and Tyler Myers; and the Canucks debut game on Prime.

Darren Dreger joins and says there's more trade chatter on Miller with preliminary discussions taking place as teams call the Canucks. He wonders whether the New York Rangers might circle back on their former player as the catastrophe continues on Broadway. Darren talks about the Hughes, Pettersson injuries and the holiday roster freeze, which saw an increase in trade activity.

Cam Robinson joins from the World Junior Championships in Ottawa. Cam says life without Hughes is a dark and scary place and that the season is looking cursed. Cam talks about Canada's loss to Latvia and narrow win vs Germany as well as previewing the NYE showdown with the U.S. Did Canada leave too many good offensive players off the team? Did they miscast the power play? How did Dave Cameron get the gig as head coach? Plus, an update on Canucks' prospect Tom Willander, who is having a terrific tournament for Sweden.

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Darren Dreger joins and says there's more trade chatter on Miller with preliminary discussions taking place as teams call the Canucks. He wonders whether the New York Rangers might circle back on their former player as the catastrophe continues on Broadway. Darren talks about the Hughes, Pettersson injuries and the holiday roster freeze, which saw an increase in trade activity.

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Cam Robinson joins from the World Junior Championships in Ottawa. Cam says life without Hughes is a dark and scary place and that the season is looking cursed. Cam talks about Canada's loss to Latvia and narrow win vs Germany as well as previewing the NYE showdown with the U.S. Did Canada leave too many good offensive players off the team? Did they miscast the power play? How did Dave Cameron get the gig as head coach? Plus, an update on Canucks' prospect Tom Willander, who is having a terrific tournament for Sweden.

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Matt and guest co-host Patrick Johnston of the Province discuss a weekend Airing of the Grievances by the Canucks. The GM, coach and captain all spoke to the rift between Elias Pettersson and J.T. Miller, even if the two principles chose denial. The fellas discuss the path forward, what has to give, why it went down this way, and what are the repercussions.

Farhan Lalji of TSN joins and calls the whole situation bizarre. He's annoyed at the defiance but says winning will cure all. He says the Canucks are running out of strategies to deal with these two and wonders if these two quintessential opposites can co-exist? He reports the Canucks have been in trade discussions with the Sabres, that Miller has been on Pettersson's case (maybe to do with his rich contract?) and says the time has long passed for a resolution.

Rink Wide Vancouver's Jeff Paterson stops by and calls the whole matter exhausting. He says the most telling comment was Quinn Hughes no longer wanting to "beat around the bush" and that maybe the rift had to come to a head for things to improve. He says if they play better they change the discussion, but doubts Miller is over what caused his 10-game absence. He wants to believe the temperature will lower in the new year and doesn't think this will drive Rick Tocchet away at the end of the year.

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Rink Wide Vancouver's Jeff Paterson stops by and calls the whole matter exhausting. He says the most telling comment was Quinn Hughes no longer wanting to "beat around the bush" and that maybe the rift had to come to a head for things to improve. He says if they play better they change the discussion, but doubts Miller is over what caused his 10-game absence. He wants to believe the temperature will lower in the new year and doesn't think this will drive Rick Tocchet away at the end of the year.

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Farhan Lalji of TSN joins and calls the whole situation bizarre. He's annoyed at the defiance but says winning will cure all. He says the Canucks are running out of strategies to deal with these two and wonders if these two quintessential opposites can co-exist? He reports the Canucks have been in trade discussions with the Sabres, that Miller has been on Pettersson's case (maybe to do with his rich contract?) and says the time has long passed for a resolution.

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The Canucks approach a crisis as they lose again, and the star forwards are nowhere to be found. Matt and Blake deal with the defeat in Vegas and another road lead squandered, with Pettersson and Miller riding multi game point droughts. RinkWide's Jeff Paterson stops by to give his post game report, and gives his toughts on where this is all leading, whether that's a star player traded or a coach in trouble. Plus, the guys chat about what effect this soap opera might be having on Quinn Hughes. Then it's Jeff Marek of The Sheet on The Nation Network, weighing in on several of the crises league wide, and whether the Canucks would use the holiday freeze to consumate a trade for the new year. Marek talks about the trades the Canucks missed out on this week, and gives out his secret holiday movie recommendation. All that, plus the Whitecaps schedule is released, and it's time to hear from you in another edition of "To the people we go"!

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