In this conversation, Philip spends time with Garance Choko, the CEO of Coda Societies, a firm that shapes social and economic infrastructures to promote equity worldwide. They discuss Garance’s global work and how her thinking about fluid infrastructures informs her design perspective.

The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.

Philip’s Drop: My Octopus Teacher

Garance’s Drop: Leon Ford

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Special Guest: Garance Choko.