We know things need to change in our church, but where do we start?

In this episode of the Pivot Podcast, host Dwight Zscheile addresses the common struggle church leaders face in navigating change with guest Dr. Ramon Pastrano, a specialist in transformational leadership. Together they explore the challenges of making changes in churches, highlighting pitfalls and proposing a better approach, emphasizing the significance of the design thinking process.

SHOW NOTES:

Faith+Lead Academy Course with Dr. Ramon Pastrano around Human Centered Design: https://faithlead.org/course-lp/spirit-led-solutions-through-human-centered-design/.

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